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fish_4_all 04-11-2007 04:49 PM

Snail Parasites?
 
I have had these little "things" for a while and I was wondering if they might be a snail parasite or if they are just copopods. I know the picture is not very clear but the little black specs are the critters in question. I noticed when I had a lot of ramshorn, the pond species, that these guys were in the millions. Well I had a recent die off of my ramshorns and the critters seemed to be less in number.

I now have 3 mystery snails in there and if they are parasites I need to know so i can try to get rid of them. It would mean treating with coppersafe and removing all of my plants from the tank but i really want to keep and breed the snails so I need to know if anyone knows anyhtiing about them. I will search the sites I have been given to try and find it but I need to know quickly and if they are, what to do!

The fish are not effected by them and not even my loaches would eat them.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...orCopopods.jpg

About the size of a pinhead if not smaller and range from very black to almost transparent.

Trishfish 04-11-2007 05:00 PM

Sorry I can't help with identifying them but you don't want to use copper where you keep snails. They definately won't mix.

How do those little buggers move? Are they really slow, darting, fast moving? Can you tell what shape they are? That may help someone else with the i.d.

fish_4_all 04-11-2007 05:29 PM

The swim fairly fast for being so small. I have looked at them under a microscope and they look like a copopod with the feathery thing they use to gather food. As for shape, little round dots, even under the microscope.

daisycutter 04-11-2007 09:23 PM

they sound in discription like bosmia water fleas these are tiny black dots that move fast without jerky movements
there are thousands of parasites that attack snails and some that use snails as an intermediate host some will go on to attack very specific animals sometimes humans for example the notorious guinea worm if the snails are an intermediate host to something the creatures should all die off suddenly if there life cycle is incomplete i've seen ramshorns with parasites but these were nematode type worms there are few copepods that attack snails perhaps the reason that both snail and mystery creature dropped in number was from some common factor?

fish_4_all 04-11-2007 09:41 PM

It could be anything so who knows. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a possible correlation. I just wish I could find a fish that would eat them. I have tried a common pleco, loaches, swords, cories and everything else I have in my tanks and nothing even cares about them. Oh well, I have at least found a way to control them because they seem to love zucchini. Do the snail trick with a small bottle and zucchini to get rid of a bunch of them once a month.

:idea: Anyone want them for feeding their salt water creatures. :idea:
Might even be able to culture then in a small tank feeding them fish food and veggies.

daisycutter 04-11-2007 09:48 PM

http://www.fishforum.com/userpix/729_seed_1.jpg how about these there called seed shrimps a relative of water fleas????

fish_4_all 04-11-2007 09:59 PM

Very similar in appearance, the only real noticeable difference is the shells don't have any kind of fuzzies around them. They are very smooth and sleak looking compared to them. It could be a water flea but I don't understand why the fish don't go after them.

daisycutter 04-11-2007 10:08 PM

they come in different types from black to bright yellow the fuzziness isn't common to all of the species some are smooth otheres very hairy(i could only find a few pictures) there harmless and a good indication of water quality i'm mystified why they don't get eatenhttp://www.fishforum.com/userpix/729_ostracod_1.jpg
http://www.fishforum.com/userpix/729...DETRITUS_1.jpg

pbradley0 04-12-2007 12:15 AM

I believe I have a parasite problem in my snail tank too but mine are worm-like and white. The move like inch worms. They don't seem to be bothering anything right now so I'll just let them be


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