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teddyzaper 07-17-2010 10:03 PM

shrimp breeding
wasup guys!

im starting a shrimp breeding tank to feed my snowflake eel that cost to much to buy food :P. so i wanna get as many shrimp as possible out of this so i cant have any predators or anything. so i went to petco and bought a 5.5 gallon tank, aquaclear 20, and an HT10 heater. i also got a 26 watt 12" light from CA aquariums with legs so it can sit on top. just set it up with sand from another tank, some rocks from my beach (cleaned) and a piece of driftwood. i want the tank to look good, so im not gonna have cheesy thinks, which IMO looks bad. i got a few questions, one being, what shrimp will reproduce the fastest? i want shrimp because they are the most nutritious, but if red cherry shrimp reproduce the same, or even crystal red (or black) cherry shrimp reproduce faster, i would prefer these because it is in my comp room. my second question is, what fish could i add along with the shrimp. ive scratched off all the fish that will eat babies, and im down to ottos..... so any suggestions would be lovely, also, stuff that reproduces like guppies would be a great treat, but i really dont want to have a whole breeding setup, i want all natural! my last question, is what plants. i know i could do anything, but i want plants that will provide good cover, but i can easily take a shrimp or two out every couple days. i like mosses, but if it gets to thick i wouldnt be able to get the shrimp out. i was thinking some contortion vals, a sword, some riccia, and a bit of moss on the wood. any problems? my PH is around 7.4-7.2, sometimes its a lil different because we have a well that is shared by 5 people.

i dont want an arguement about whether or not its humane to feed shrimp to my eel, i just want some good facts.... if you wanna DEBATE about feeding shrimp, please post another thread in another section, thank you :P

aunt kymmie 07-17-2010 10:21 PM

The only experience I have is with RCS and I have mine in a 6gl shrimp only tank. I'd see babies here and there but it wasn't until I added dried Almond Leaves to the tank that the population exploded. It was explained to me that baby RCS will eat a type of bacteria that only grows on decaying matter, and that this bacteria ups their mortality rate. It's true and it works!
The only fish that wouldn't eat RCS babies would be otos. Since shrimp and oto both like algae I'd be inclined to skip the otos and let the RCS do their thing. I have an assortment of plants in their tank, with a nice big clump of java moss for the babies to hang out in.

onefish2fish 07-18-2010 02:58 PM

i dont think cherry shrimp or guppies should be fed to eels because ive yet to meet an eel in the wild that had access to either of the two.
IMO frozen silversides on a skewer would be a better, more natural option.

aunt kymmie 07-18-2010 03:35 PM

Ooops. I totally missed that. I thought we were talking freshwater eels.

teddyzaper 07-18-2010 06:34 PM

silversides are soooo expensive, could i feed like those mixed seafood bags at the local grocery? they have shrimp, octopus, fish, crab, clams, scallops, and a lot more. also, could i feed fishing bait, they have smelt which are pretty much sardines.

onefish2fish 07-18-2010 08:08 PM

$10 a flat of silversides is expensive? i bet a bag of mixed seafood goes for that much. you could use both the mixed seafood and the bait but i would personally avoid the bait if possible as its being sold as bait i cant imagine it being "food quality"
i would use the mixed seafood to make my own food ( dont use anything cooked ) but i would still feed silversides from time to time.

teddyzaper 07-19-2010 03:36 PM

ok, thanks that sounds like a good idea. now i got an empty 5.5 gallon..... lol, i guess ill just keep shrimp and a betta or something.

redchigh 07-19-2010 05:54 PM

IT's quite true that you shouldn't feed TOO many freshwater fish to a saltwater fish- they are chemically different from what they would eat in the wild.

If you REALLY wanted to try, then you could attempt to acclimate some sort of livebearer (guppy or molly) to full marine, and then feed the offspring.

As far as shrimp, I'm pretty sure you should stick to marine fish and inverts to feed a marine eel.

Also, Bettas and shrimp do NOT mix well, just ask aunt kymmie.

You could put RCS in the tank, sell the babies, and use that to buy silversides though. :)

I have guppies, and feed the culls to some green terrors I have. No one would argue whether it's humane, in the wild shrimp and guppies both are about as close to the bottom of the food chain as you can get.

If you want to breed shrimp, it comes down to a decision. Do you want to breed them, or keep other fish in the tank?

I bet even an otto wouldn't pass up a teeny tiny baby shrimp if it stumbled upon it.
I would suggest RCS, and then when you have been doing it successfully for a while you can try some CRS or CBS.

If you have the money to invest, your can try Green cherry shrimp or Yellow cherry shrimp- they're basically the same species, only a different color and more expensive. (higher buying price=higher selling price)

If you want RCS, let me know, otherwise check out aquabid.

teddyzaper 07-19-2010 10:05 PM

itll bea bit, but i will go with RCS or a betta, still gotta decide

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