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honzicek 07-17-2010 10:24 AM

Hi i have problem with ammonia...
 
Hi i have problem whit ammonia.Sorry for my English-is not so good.
Please help my i don't have idea what i m doing...
In June 3. 2010 my brother-in-law give me 30 gallon freshwater tank whit 5 fish in it in disaster condition.
I clean whole tank and filter and air pump was not working so i go to store (petco) and i get Tetra Whisper Air Pump up to 40G and Aqueon Aquarium Power Filter For 30-45 gallon Aquariums 200 GPH.
So i wash everything fill whit tap water and i put in water conditioner and aquarium salt and stress coat (API). After 3 days i buy 10 tetra neons, 2 black moors, 2 pleco and 5 guppys.
My friend tell me i have to monitor water condition so i buy API freshwater master test kit from petco.
My readings was:
PH:7.4
ammonia:1ppm
nitrite:0.25ppm
nitrate:5ppm
I was doing 20% water change every week and readings was almost same. After 10 day my 4 guppys dies.
So i call friend and hi tell me my filter is not so good and i need canister filter.next day i order EHEIM 2217 canister filter up to 159 gallons. I put canister together ran 1 hr whit tap water and latter put in tank. sence that my readings is:
PH:7.4
Ammonia:2-4ppm
nitrite:0ppm
nitrate0ppm
I was doing 50% water changes every day for 5 day and nothing help. I put in AMMO LOCK and nothing help. week latter i put in Microbe-lift ammonia remover and nothing help. Then i read on internet about NUTRAFIN CYCLE so i put that in and nothing hapen.
I dont thing my filter ever cycle and reading is same for 2 or 3 weeks.
i buy other 3 guppys from petco-1 was pregnant. 3 guppys die only 8 baby guppys are live in breading box in same tank whit other fishis. The 8 baby guppys are 1 week old today and healty.
now i have 2 filter in tank 1 Aquarium Power Filter For 30-45 gallon Aquariums 200 GPH and 1 eheim 2217 for 159G.
So what is whit my water???
please help my.
Thanks...

onefish2fish 07-17-2010 11:03 AM

STOP POSTING IN DIFFERENT THREADS!!!!!!

that is NOT how you will get a positive response, and continued behavior may result in a suspension of your account or being banned. have patience, no one is here as your personal hotline.

here is a copy of what i posted in another thread of what you abused.

"posting a link in someone else thread for a response is SPAM and not a good way to get a positive response.
first off you washed the entire tank which killed any benificial bacteria. then you wait 3 days to stock it HEAVILY with all kinds of fish, esp the 2 plecos. your tank was cycling. you removed the filter for another filter, now its cycling again. patience is key. let the filter establish bacteria.

go to www.google.com type in fishless cycle. read. go back to www.google.com type in nitrogen cycle. read.

now can a MOD please clean up this thread. thank you."

Read more: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/s...#ixzz0tx5nNxzH

reefsahoy 07-17-2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honzicek (Post 425287)
Hi i have problem whit ammonia.Sorry for my English-is not so good.
Please help my i don't have idea what i m doing...
In June 3. 2010 my brother-in-law give me 30 gallon freshwater tank whit 5 fish in it in disaster condition.
I clean whole tank and filter and air pump was not working so i go to store (petco) and i get Tetra Whisper Air Pump up to 40G and Aqueon Aquarium Power Filter For 30-45 gallon Aquariums 200 GPH.
So i wash everything fill whit tap water and i put in water conditioner and aquarium salt and stress coat (API). After 3 days i buy 10 tetra neons, 2 black moors, 2 pleco and 5 guppys.
My friend tell me i have to monitor water condition so i buy API freshwater master test kit from petco.
My readings was:
PH:7.4
ammonia:1ppm
nitrite:0.25ppm
nitrate:5ppm
I was doing 20% water change every week and readings was almost same. After 10 day my 4 guppys dies.
So i call friend and hi tell me my filter is not so good and i need canister filter.next day i order EHEIM 2217 canister filter up to 159 gallons. I put canister together ran 1 hr whit tap water and latter put in tank. sence that my readings is:
PH:7.4
Ammonia:2-4ppm
nitrite:0ppm
nitrate0ppm
I was doing 50% water changes every day for 5 day and nothing help. I put in AMMO LOCK and nothing help. week latter i put in Microbe-lift ammonia remover and nothing help. Then i read on internet about NUTRAFIN CYCLE so i put that in and nothing hapen.
I dont thing my filter ever cycle and reading is same for 2 or 3 weeks.
i buy other 3 guppys from petco-1 was pregnant. 3 guppys die only 8 baby guppys are live in breading box in same tank whit other fishis. The 8 baby guppys are 1 week old today and healty.
now i have 2 filter in tank 1 Aquarium Power Filter For 30-45 gallon Aquariums 200 GPH and 1 eheim 2217 for 159G.
So what is whit my water???
please help my.
Thanks...


when ever you start a new tank you need to wait like 30 days for it to cycle. the first stage is ammonia build up. Then follows nitrite, then nitrate. so i would say don't do any water changes, add nothing for ammonia removal, or clean your filters until your tank cycles. You are probably going to lose some fish until your tank settles in. good luck

onefish2fish 07-17-2010 11:07 AM

after you get a nitrATE reading is when you should perform your first, SMALL water change, NOT the entire tank. then you stock it lightly, over time, a few fish every other week or so.

honzicek 07-17-2010 11:10 AM

so when i have to do water change? every 2 weeks??? i have baby guppys in breading box in tank.
thanks for help.

honzicek 07-17-2010 11:23 AM

can i put in NUTRAFIN CYCLE help bacteria???

reefsahoy 07-17-2010 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honzicek (Post 425328)
can i put in NUTRAFIN CYCLE help bacteria???


personally i'd leave the tank alone till it cycles and that takes at least 30 days from the moment you put fish in. if you have a known good source you can take their old filter floss and add it to your filter or some rock, gravel from their tank. i say known good source because you don't want to add any parasites or desease to your tank.

reefsahoy 07-17-2010 11:31 AM

the biggest mistake is that tank keepers are not patient enough and they move too fast. in this hobby only bad things that happen fast and good things take a long time. this hobby is all about being patient.

honzicek 07-17-2010 12:05 PM

what about my baby guppys in breading thank they are ok?

TexasTanker 07-17-2010 12:08 PM

I agree with the others. I think you overstocked and did it too fast.

Now, it's a matter of saving the tank. I'd suggest DAILY water changes, treating the new water with Seacham's prime, and not introducing anything else into the tank or trying to save the fry. With your water conditions the fry will be hard pressed to develop without defect. It may be better to let nature take it's course until your tank can with stand another influx. I'd also suggest not using any more chemicals to fix this. No more ammonia fixers, no more cycling cures, no more meds. Just use water and Prime. The tank will cycle but it will be difficult with the current stocking.

I would also suggest you consider rehoming a few of your fish. You have tropicals mixed with cooler temp fish and they require entirely different conditions. If it were my tank I'd return the plecos and moors. They have very high bioloads and will drive up the ammonia in your tank, on top of the fact they will soon be too big for the tank.


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