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WH2O 07-06-2010 07:45 PM

Stocking suggestions for 10 gal
 
Well I'm new to this forum and i have bought a 10 gallon aquarium kit (my first tank, I know its too small but my parents wont buy me anything bigger) along with all the supplies that are missing.?

What can I stock it with?

This is my list of fish I am thinking about:
Neon tetra
Glow light tetra
ghost shrimp
bamboo shrimp
African dwarf frog?
Betta?

These I cant find at my LFS:
Endler live bearers
cherry shrimp

Also I will use a fish less cycle and maybe those bacteria in a bottle (what is the best brand?)

JohnnyD44 07-06-2010 08:08 PM

Hello and Welcome to TFK!!! :wave:

I"m glad you've choosing the fish-less cycle method, it's the safest thing for our fish and even though can be long (4-8 weeks) it'll be the best thing for your fish in the long run.

There's a great 'sticky' thread on here but together by a fellow moderator, but I can't seem to find it. I thought i had it book marked at home, but I guess not....:shock:

Are you able to get a reading on your fish tank? A reading on your fish water will help to determine which fish can safley live in your tank with your natural water. We'd like a reading primarily of your pH and GH, with these you can find some suitable fish, rather than picking fish that may struggle to survive in an environment of which they're not accustomed to.

As for some of the fish you have selected, here's just some quick info on the fish you listed.

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Neon tetra
Glow light tetra
ghost shrimp
bamboo shrimp
African dwarf frog?
Betta?
Your tetras you listed, both the neons and glow lights (as well as any kind of tetras) should be kept in schools of atleast 6. They feel most comfortable when in bigger groups, when they are comfortable, it's less stress on them which can help them live longer.

I don't have any experience with shrimp, but I'm sure other members will be along to offer advice.

Have you thought of any decor? Gravel bed and plants(dead or alive)?

Hope some of this helped, those water reading will give us a better idea of what you can safely keep, however some fish have a wide compatibility range when it comes to pH and gH.

Johnny

WH2O 07-06-2010 08:24 PM

I'm happy to be here!

I have not yet got the extra supplies, only the kit, decor and gravel, So its empty.
Although, I thought tetras were comfortable is schools of five, is five enough?

Oh by the way I'm using live plants (elodea, java fern, other medium to low light plants).

JohnnyD44 07-06-2010 08:45 PM

with a planted aquarium, you may be able to forgo the fish-less cycle, Byron is the master of explaning this, but I know that plants act as a natural biological filter for the aquarium. I'm sure he may jump in here to explain it in greater detail...

some things to add to your shopping list:
API master liquid test kit
nutrient supplements for your plants
thermometer
timer for your lights
some 5 gallon buckets
gravel siphon

have you looked into lighting for your planted tank yet?

WH2O 07-07-2010 03:33 PM

I have everything (counting the supplies I ordered online and is being shipped to my door) exept for the plant supplements which I actually don't need as I am only using very easy to grow plants that get their nutrients from the water such as elodea and java fern.

How do I convince my mom that we need a new bucket for the aquarium and not a used one?

Also do the smaller LFS have a wider selection of fish than the big retail stores? I think I might find cherry shrimp there.

tanker 07-07-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WH2O (Post 419149)
How do I convince my mom that we need a new bucket for the aquarium and not a used one?

Tell her that someone on the internet (ie, me) said that they were extremely frugal but that they wouldn't use a used bucket. (And besides, buckets aren't expensive....) Also, you don't want to run the risk of killing your fish and wasting the money spent on them, so paying for a new bucket might end up saving you a lot of money.

JohnnyD44 07-07-2010 07:38 PM

agreed. a 5 gallon bucket at lowes is $4 with a lid.

you have no way of knowing what chemicals came in contact with that bucket

WH2O 07-07-2010 08:46 PM

Thanks, also will a single female Betta a good idea or do they need a shoal?

Byron 07-08-2010 10:13 AM

On the bucket, absolutely, never use one that has been used for anything else, they are plastic and can absorb toxins and there go the fish. Also a 2 gallon bucket is more manageable, esp washing gravel and water changes.

Live plants will cycle your tank immediately. Set it up, add the plants, make sure everything is working; overnight is good, with the filter and heater running, if it is OK in the morning--no leaks (this does sometimes happen), heater is keeping the tank at the set temperature, filter running fine--you can add a fish or two. Use a water conditioner when you add the water of course.

A betta is pretty much a stand alone fish. If you like the betta, by all means it will be very happy in a planted 10g. Or some other fish you could have are either the neon tetra or the glowlight tetra you mentioned. These are tetras and tetras are shoaling fish than must be kept in groups of at least six, so 6 of either of these is going to fill your 10g. You could also add a trio of small Corydoras catfish for the bottom level, or the shrimp. If you go with the tetra, I would add 3 one day, wait 2-3 days, then if all's well add 3 more.

We have a fish profiles section here, second link from the left in the blue bar across the top, or you can click on shaded names within posts to see that fish or plant profile.

Byron.

WH2O 07-08-2010 04:46 PM

Does anyone have additional fish suggestions? Prefarably another centerpiece.


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