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V1ad 06-23-2010 08:12 PM

The best way to treat Ich in this tropical aquarium?
 
Hey guys, I know there's a lot of advice how to treat ich, but here is the situation, this afternoon I heard some banging noise in my aquarium, so I turned to the aquarium and noticed how my Red Line torpedo barb was swimming rapidly side to side banging the aquarium glass. If he wasn't a fish I would say rage disease, after 5-10 seconds of banging, he just floated to the top and turned upside-down. I knocked on a glass, no reaction, so I got bucket filled it up with aquarium water, put him in, he just turned pale after an hour.

So i began observing my fish closely and I have noticed white spots on some of the fish, google images let me conclude it's an ICH disease.

Cherry Bards - infected
Neon Tetras - infected
Black Neon tetras - infected

Black skirt tetras - no sign
Amano Shrimp - no sign
Bronze corys - no sign
Bristlenose - no sign
Raphael cat fish - strange behaviour - rage and he bumps on to the gravel ans rubs again the boogwood, no visual signs

Here's the situation, how do I treat this communal aquarium and what with, I would have to wait 2-5 days if I order some medication online (as the neares pet store is 12 milles away). If I treat them with salt, I have plants, shrimps and catfish. Do I remove the sick fish?

TexasTanker 06-23-2010 09:07 PM

WHAT ARE YOUR WATER PARAMETERS, HOW BIG IS THE TANK, WHEN WAS THE LAST WATER CHANGE AND WHEN? Sorry about caps. too lazy to retype it.

V1ad 06-23-2010 09:21 PM

100L aquarium, has been running with all that fish for 2 months now with PH 7.2, ammonia - 0, Nitrite – 0, Nitrate 120 at 25C, but summer, temperatures rises to 28C during the day. Last time I have changed the water was last Sunday, where I did about 35% of water change.


My question is what's the best way would be to treat tetras, catfish, corys, shrimps and not to harm any as well as plants, together, sepprate?

V1ad 06-24-2010 07:26 AM

Today in the morning I have discovered 3 black neon floaters, 1 on the bottom and 1 cherry barb on the bottom too. I have noticed white mark on black widow's nostrals too. What to do guys????????

twocents 06-24-2010 11:37 AM

Right off the top of my head I'd say your tank is waaay overcrowded.
You have plants, so I would not recommend salt.
I think raising temps would help a tad, but you would have to research that. I think I read it somewhere but my memory is not so good nowadays.
You will need to get ich meds. I would recommend keeping ich meds and a fungus med on hand at all times for emergencies such as this.

LisaC144 06-24-2010 01:50 PM

Do not raise the temperature. It will only cause more stress to the fish. Go to your LFS and purchase an ICH med. I have had much success with RidIch+ found at PetsSmart. Dose at 1/2 the recommended strength for your stock list. Although some fish show no signs, you want to treat the whole tank because it is present in the water. Treat everyday until all traces of white dots are gone from the fish, then treat an ADDITIONAL 3 days after that.

Google Ich to learn about the life cycle of Ich.

aunt kymmie 06-24-2010 01:58 PM

+1 to Lisa. That's exactly how I treat ich. I also use Kordan's RidIch+, at half strength, to battle ich, in a tank with sensitive fish. No heat or salt, as plants don't like it and neither to scaleless fish.

Here's a good article:

http://www.skepticalaquarist.com/docs/health/ich.shtml

LisaC144 06-24-2010 02:03 PM

Good article, Kymmie.

V1ad 06-26-2010 08:35 AM

I have increased the temperature to 84 and added 0.25% salt to the whole aquarium in 3 days, salt bath only because I could not get my hands on any medications 3 days ago. Now 3 days later, 6 (4 black neons and 1 clown loach and 1 cherry barb) dead fishes later I had a chance to travel to a pet store and purchased Interpet No.6 anti white spots medicine.

However since the salt has already been added, is it worth mixing it with the medicine?

LisaC144 06-26-2010 08:46 AM

The fish more likely died from the heat and salt than anything else. Loaches and neons are HIGHLY sensitive to salt and 84 is really at the high end for them to tolerate. I would do a 50% water change and start the Ich meds AT HALF STRENGTH despite what the directions say.


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