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laurence 06-16-2010 09:48 AM

What lighting do i want?
 
I setting up a planted 5G tank to keep red cherry shrimp in.

The plants im planning on keeping in there are Hemianthus callitrichoides and Java moss.

This is the substrate im planning on using http://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/cari...9kg-p-190.html

So im going to go to the shop tomorrow to pick up some stuff to start it up, including a light and a heater.

Can anyone give the me the specifications i would want for the light? (tank is 30x20x20)

JohnnyD44 06-16-2010 11:27 AM

Hi Laurence,

i'm a bit confused....you said your starting a 5G tank...but the dimensions listed are close that of a 30G tank...

can you clear that up for us before we can recommend a good bulb for you.

Byron 06-16-2010 01:05 PM

I'm taking a guess (from the reference to a substrate in the UK) that lawrence may be from the UK, in which case the dimensions are almost certainly to be metric, in centimeters; this would equate to a 5g tank.

My thought for light is first, a window. I have read about this previously, and recently set up a 10g in front of the window and the plants are responding well. If this is not feasible, there is always a light fixture/hood for the tank with an incandescent bulb, or a simple desk-type lamp (gooseneck style) beside the tank. Both could use a CF bulb, daylight around 6500K. These bulbs have been shown to result in good plant growth, bringing back all those discarded incandescent fixtures we thought were gone forever.

Byron.

JohnnyD44 06-16-2010 01:49 PM

I'd like to know more about how your tank is progessing in the window Byron....if you can a chance a PM would be great. I thinking of making this a summer project with a 10G I found in my in-laws basement.....

+1 on the lighting recommendation by B also.

Byron 06-16-2010 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD44 (Post 405822)
I'd like to know more about how your tank is progessing in the window Byron....if you can a chance a PM would be great. I thinking of making this a summer project with a 10G I found in my in-laws basement.....

+1 on the lighting recommendation by B also.

It's not much yet; and I just stuck some odds and ends in, sprigs of Pennywort, a couple of daughter swords, and a piece of wood covered with Java Moss. I have 10 Boraras brigittae in this tank, they are one of the tiniest fish in the hobby and when they became available I wanted them but didn't want to stick them in my 70g where they would get lost like their cousins B. merah did. One drawback of window tanks is that the leaves naturally grow to the light, which is the back of the tank. I was sitting there last evening thinking that I might have to add a background to the tank (it is also hard to see fish with a tank in the window and no background) and direct the miniblinds downward to push light through the glass top. This should work, as there is no light fixture over the tank. Might be better :question::hmm:

redchigh 06-16-2010 04:11 PM

To be honest, that's one reason I haven't posted pics of my other two tanks...

I have 3 tanks, 2 10 gallon and 1 5 gallon. Only one tank has a hood, the other two have 6500k CFLs in a gooseneck desk lamp. :)

One even has a homemade reflector...


Those plants... Java moss likes extremely dim light, but the other one... That's not dwarf baby tears is it?

laurence 06-17-2010 09:07 AM

Hey guys, sorry about that i forgot that this was an american website - i was talking in centimetres.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/PICT0215.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...2/PICT0213.jpg

So heres some pics of my tank set up, it doesn't have a suitable canopy so mounting a tube lamp into that isnt an option. The only options i can think of are one of these - http://www.equinecaninefeline.com/ca...i-pi-3028.html
or a gooseneck lamp with a suitable bulb.

The first option looks good to me, but i've heard that shrimp tanks need to be completely covered or they escape.. can somone confirm this?

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Originally Posted by redchigh (Post 405945)
Those plants... Java moss likes extremely dim light, but the other one... That's not dwarf baby tears is it?

yup, dwarf baby tears was the one i was talking about.

Byron 06-17-2010 09:53 AM

Don't know about shrimp so will leave that for members who do. On that first light, that looks ideal, but one question--can you change the bulb in it? Or what type of bulb is it? The type of light is important.

laurence 06-17-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Byron (Post 406500)
On that first light, that looks ideal, but one question--can you change the bulb in it? Or what type of bulb is it? The type of light is important.

im not sure about that one - i can't seem to find any information on it but how about this one?

http://www.hobbyfish.net/index.php?p...=4001615059243

9 or 11 watts, daylight colour, 6000 kelvin and a reflector. is that the sort of spec im looking for?

Byron 06-17-2010 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by laurence (Post 406518)
im not sure about that one - i can't seem to find any information on it but how about this one?

http://www.hobbyfish.net/index.php?p...=4001615059243

9 or 11 watts, daylight colour, 6000 kelvin and a reflector. is that the sort of spec im looking for?

Those look perfect. Yes. The spectrum and kelvin are right on, and they are correct, the mid-day sun in the Amazon is exactly that.

For a 5g the smaller will be adequate. With the reflector and all it may be fairly intense so you need to see it, use floating plants (you can get away with higher intensity with floaters). I would think it would be ideal. I've never seen those here, maybe just haven't looked--I think I couold use one of these over my 20g with a glass top. Must check around.

Byron.


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