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Falina 03-24-2007 08:20 PM

white spot
i noticed today that 3 of my fish have white spot. a pictus catfish, a molly and a blue ram. i recently introduced the 3 blue rams so i expect thats where it came from, even though they looked fine when i got them, but it has only been a few days since they have been introduced therefore i suspect them. can anyone recommend a specific medication or should i just got for any white spot medication. i would like to treat the whole tank as i know it can spread quickly so even the fish that are yet unaffacted, i would like to have been treated to ensure that they dont have it but just arent showing yet

tankmates are:
1 pictus catfish
1 upside down catfish (synosomething)
1 pitbull plec
4 mollies
1 swordtail
3 blue rams
2 blind cave tetras

thanks for your help everyone. as its clearly 02.19am i shall have to wait until the morning before getting any medication so if you could make suggestions ill be able to read them before getting anything tomorrow morning

musho3210 03-24-2007 08:25 PM

salt and increased temperature, put the temperature around 82 degrees then add 1 tbls of salt per 5 gallons, i think its that much, it could be 1 tbls of salt per 10 gallons, ask blue....

Falina 03-24-2007 08:32 PM

tbh i wasnt very keen on using salt as i have read that catfish varieties are very sensitive to salt and it can kill then quickly, and since i have 3 i didnt want to take the chance. is this wrong? i know you can get medications specially for white spot (itch, whatever). do you not recommend these?

thanks for the quick response

leifthebunny 03-24-2007 11:06 PM

If you have Cory cats (Pleco cats are more salt tolerant) or plants, salt may be an issue, however, 1tbsp per 5gal using aquarium salt is still safe. In addition, you should raise the temp of the tank to about 82F(28C).

musho3210 03-25-2007 01:33 AM

meds are even worse for catfish. Technically its not catfish who have problems, its scaleless fish, many catfish fall in this category but not all.

Lupin 03-25-2007 03:21 AM

1 tbsp per 5 gallons is indeed the minimum.:) Dissolve salt first before adding it in your tank. Any grain of salt lying on the bottom can burn catfishes and other bottom dwellers. Treat the tank for two weeks minimum or risk repeating the process again if your fish becomes stressed again. Ich always hits the fish's weaknesses and stress is just one thing that will easily trigger their appearance.

Use medicines as your last resort. They are risky enough and most of them tend to destroy the filtration system when salt is a safer option. Only thing that is often forgotten is dissolving before adding to the tank.

Falina 03-25-2007 04:10 AM

i will use salt then

i know that if i add any new water from water chages then i will have to add salt to the new water, however, should i be doing water changes more or less frequently while i am trying to get rid of the white spot? i usually change about a third of the water once a week roughly. ill do this before i put the salt in, to get rid of even some of the "particles?" before i put the dose in.

you say 1tbsp/5gal is the minimum. should i be using any more or is this the recommended dose? with you saying minimum i thoguht that maybe you were meaning it in a "bare minimum" type of way.

thanks for your help everyone. i dnt like to see my fishes stressed or unwell so your help is very much appreciated. i am going to get some aquarium salt just now and i will let you all know the outcome.

Falina 03-25-2007 01:49 PM

ok so i added 1tbsp of aquarium salt per 5g this morning and when i get home form work 8 hours later, ceasar, my pictus hasnt made it :cry:

im gutted - he was my favourite fish and he was the reason i posted because i was worried about medicating with him in the tank because he was scaless.

does anyone know what might have killed him? i was really worried about the salt, but everyone here said he would be fine with the salt. he did have white spot but not anywhere near as bad as some of the other fish, and apart form a couple of wee spots on him he was very healthy this morning.

water parameters were fine last time i checked which was less than a week ago (amonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate 10).

i cant understand what has happened to him. im totally gutted :cry:

should i be worried about my other fish now?

leifthebunny 03-25-2007 04:23 PM

Sorry to hear about your pictus. :( 1tsp per 5 gallons is still pretty low salinity, but sufficient to deal with ick.

Falina 03-25-2007 04:30 PM

like i said, after posting here i stopped worrying about the salt. i know you lot know what youre talking about, and i also double checked online to see if they would be lright with salt and it says they will be fine. thanks for all your responses though, as it allowed me to decide a course of action quickly and do something about it. his death just still seems a mystery to me though :(

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