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Firebelly girrl 03-24-2007 05:43 PM

Does anybody know what this could have been?
 
I had 3 fan tail goldfish in a 20 gallon tank. One of my fish has been to hell and back because my younger sister had him in a 2 gallon tank for 2 years before i got a hold of him, he was just gorgeous. I set up a 55 gallon and had him in it, well i ended up giving the other goldfish i had in there away but i kept the old guy. Well once i took down the 55 gallon i had no other tank so he got put back in his original bowl for a few days, i seen he was not doing good so my freshman year in highschool my bio teacher set up a fish tank and i asked her if i could bring him in, so he was in a nice clean 10 gallon for monthes. Well when the school year ended i set up the 20 gallon and he lived there for about a year with 2 other fan tails (much smaller than him). Well my next door neighbors young daughter won a fish at the carnival and they had him in a bowl so i told them i would take them, i put him in my tank with my 3 healthy fish. 2 days later the fish died (the new one).....1 week later, my 5 year old fan tailed died. I was devistated that i killed my beloved fish over a carnival fish. Before he died he got very inactive and i knew the night before he died that he wasnt going to make it to the next day. He would hide behind plants and in plants and wouldnt come out even when i turned the light on when he usually comes out. Well when i found him dead the top of his head was very skeleton like...it was white and its hard to explain. Well another week goes by and my other 2 smaller fantails turn very RED, they completely lose their color, they looked horrible. Well one died then when i had one left that looked the worse. He has been a gorgeous shiny orange, he turned into a very dull orange, had a white tint to him, fins were ripped up, very red between his body and his fins. This disease killed all 3 of them within 3 weeks. Does anybody have any idea what this could have been? I still feel horrible ending the fishs lives over a carnival fish, but their gone now so im just still confused on what this was. I did a complete water change after the original carnival fish died, but the disease had already got to the fish. =( So be very careful when adding new fish, you may not think much of it but it could lead to a bad ending.

heres the 5 year old fish before the carnival fish was involved...
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98...t/100_9137.jpg

one of the fan tails...
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98...t/100_9151.jpg

all 3 of them...
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/mariahtt/1F.jpg

the tank BEFORE it was infested!!
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a98/mariahtt/2F.jpg

musho3210 03-24-2007 06:42 PM

what were the water params, that many goldfish in a 20 gallon tank might have spiked the ammonia.

Firebelly girrl 03-24-2007 09:44 PM

Im not sure but i had a thing you put in the water and it would digitally tell you the number, it was fine and i did about 20-30% weekly waterchanges and used ammonia reducers and they were fine with the same procedure for a year, it was something the carnival fish brought, but i couldnt find any type of disease online

GalaxyGirl 03-24-2007 09:56 PM

This is strange, never heard of it. To be truthful, thats far too many, Mush likes to give 2 goldfish 30 gallons, and then 10 gallons for every goldfish after that, I like to give a goldfish 10 gallons from the start. Now what I do know is that when goldfish are 'cramped' they secrete a poison to kill off all the other fish. I dont know if the carnival was still doing this, or it was saturated in the poison, who knows.

Im sorry your old boy died =( My friend who has been an avid goldfish keeper for years just lost 8/12 of her big girls shes had for years over a fluke disease(?) in the tank.

Firebelly girrl 03-24-2007 10:42 PM

aw i know people dont really relize how attached you can get to a fish when you have it for so long

musho3210 03-25-2007 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GalaxyGirl
This is strange, never heard of it. To be truthful, thats far too many, Mush likes to give 2 goldfish 30 gallons, and then 10 gallons for every goldfish after that, I like to give a goldfish 10 gallons from the start. Now what I do know is that when goldfish are 'cramped' they secrete a poison to kill off all the other fish. I dont know if the carnival was still doing this, or it was saturated in the poison, who knows.

Im sorry your old boy died =( My friend who has been an avid goldfish keeper for years just lost 8/12 of her big girls shes had for years over a fluke disease(?) in the tank.

i guess youve been reading my posts. Did put any of the water from the carnival fish tank to the tank you have now? Diseases are easily transfered that way

Sadie 03-26-2007 08:59 PM

goldfish
 
I'm sorry for your loss. I would think it was the carnival fish just from experience.. My niece won 3 one year at a fireman's carnival and we had to set them up temporarily in a goldfish bowl overnight since we were unprepared and were going to head to town the next day to get proper housing. I can't remember if 1 or 2 died that night but they were all dead by morning. One had actually died in the bag on the way home.

Afterwards I took note of the care or lack thereof. They kept them in plastic garbage cans, I assume because they could travel and since they travel from festival to festival I would assume they get jostled in the process of traveling. The cans were keep out on the fair grounds in the July-August heat, so overheated and from where we were standing you couldn't see the water level in the can so I assume it was no more than 1/2 a can. They get balls or hoops thrown at them all evening, I can only imagine the stress level. I imagine the ones in the bowls would be overheated in 95-100 degrees weather in such a small amount of water.

Another experience, my niece had won 1 at a Girl Scout function again on a hot day. The game was very much the same. I can't remember but I think they threw ping pong balls or something light like that. It died within 24 hours as well.

Anyhow. My niece learned a lot after that year and won't even look at carnival fish now. She decided a hamster would be better. :D


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