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Mike 06-10-2010 04:29 PM

Treating popeye with epsom salt
 
Our juvenile emperor angel fish has what looks like popeye in one eye - one of his eyes looks bulging and cloudy. His other eye appears fine. None of the other fish in the tank are exhibiting similar symptoms.

I read that when a fish looks like it has popeye in just one eye you may be able to treat it by adding epsom salt. I read it was safe to add 1 table spoon per 5 gallons of water and add it directly to the main display tank since it supposedly can't harm anything. This is a good thing since I only have a main display tank and don't have a quarantine tank. :-P I plan on adding 13 table spoons to my 55 gallon tank to account for water in the wet/dry, pre-filter, and protein skimmer.

Does anyone know anything about using epsom salt to treat popeye? I'm nervous about introducing it to the tank despite what I've read.

The juvenile emperor angel fish also appears to have developed something on its side... if I recall correctly, it started out looking slightly discolored in 1 tiny acute spot, and now it looks like a tiny open wound of some kind. Is it possible the fish could have worms of some kind? How would you recommend treating it, or would you wait and see if/how it develops?

Thank you in advance,
Mike

bearwithfish 06-10-2010 07:28 PM

io have heard of this treatment but have not ever used it .. but the one warning i got loud and clear from the piece i read was to be sure it does not have additives that could harm your tank... try to get 100% pure if possible....

jpbotha 06-10-2010 11:44 PM

I've never tried it on a marine tank but have used it in my cichlid tank with great success on various occasions.
And yes I also added it to my main display tank directly.
Its definitely the best value for money ito medication

aunt kymmie 06-10-2010 11:49 PM

I have used the Epsom Salt treatment in a hospital tank to treat a discus with a serious case of constipation and it worked amazingly well. But then constipation is a very different thing than popeye, not to mention a discus isn't a marine fish. I hope someone pops in here with some definitive answers and experience that can help you!

Mike 06-11-2010 07:43 AM

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Thanks, guys.

I was taking pictures of my tank this morning so that I could submit one for this month's contest and I managed to take a picture showing the difference between the angel's eyes pretty clearly:

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I am going to go ahead and buy some Epsom salt and treat the tank. I would hate to see this fish die or become permanently disfigured. :-( Please wish us luck!

bearwithfish 06-11-2010 07:56 AM

keep us posted...... poor fishy :(

aunt kymmie 06-11-2010 10:16 AM

I wish you all the luck I have to offer. What a beautiful fish, I hope he makes a FULL recovery.

wake49 06-11-2010 01:00 PM

I have heard that the best way to treat popeye is do nothing, unless other fish are bothering the fish. The popeye itself should go down (I had a hippo that had popeye for like a week, all better now). Moving the fish might further irritate the eye, so leave him put. Most of the time popeye is a result of some kind of injury that just needs to heal, although it can also be a warning sign of an infection or fungus. Either of the latter two will present themselves with other symptoms and should be treated accordingly if it is really something besides injury. I would personally feed with garlic pellets or soak your food in liquid garlic. Maybe vitamin-enriched food would be a good way to go too...

Mike 06-12-2010 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bearwithfish (Post 402339)
keep us posted...... poor fishy :(

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Originally Posted by aunt kymmie (Post 402412)
I wish you all the luck I have to offer. What a beautiful fish, I hope he makes a FULL recovery.

Thanks, guys. I hope so, too.

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Originally Posted by wake49 (Post 402528)
I have heard that the best way to treat popeye is do nothing, unless other fish are bothering the fish. The popeye itself should go down (I had a hippo that had popeye for like a week, all better now). Moving the fish might further irritate the eye, so leave him put. Most of the time popeye is a result of some kind of injury that just needs to heal, although it can also be a warning sign of an infection or fungus. Either of the latter two will present themselves with other symptoms and should be treated accordingly if it is really something besides injury. I would personally feed with garlic pellets or soak your food in liquid garlic. Maybe vitamin-enriched food would be a good way to go too...

Other fish seem to be leaving the angel alone, Jeff. That would be great if it's just a matter of time. Hopefully between time and the Epsom salt it will just go away. I don't see anything wrong with any of our other fish, so I'm hoping that's an indication that it isn't anything fungal. Thanks for the tip about the garlic. I've been adding a few drops of Garlic Xtreme to their food.

Pasfur 06-12-2010 06:47 AM

Not to sound like a broken record.... but I agree with Wake. Mike, I would not do anything special at all. Just let it ride. Large angels (meaning the Genus, not the size) are very prone to issues around the eyes, including swelling and cloudiness. Provided the tank conditions are good, they generally just go away on their own without treatments. Recall the issue with my Majestic Angelfish earlier this year?

On a side note, water parameters can often be blamed for eye issues. Check the pH, alkalinity, and calcium levels. I is possible that your pH is bouncing around a bit, or has dipped below 8.0.


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