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herna236 03-20-2007 10:53 AM

Midas or Red Devil?
could some one help me out and tell me if i have a red devil or midas? This is him. thanks a ton

SinisterKisses 03-20-2007 12:17 PM

You have both ;)

At this point in time, unless you specifically order a purebred fish from a very reputable breeder such as Jeff Rapps, you're going to have a mix of the two species. I highly doubt there is a pure Midas or RD left in local stores.

Daz 03-20-2007 04:35 PM

I've looked at some of the Rapps prices. Whoa they certainly stump up over here in the UK.

herna236 what happened to the Texas and JD's in that 10 gallon tank?

herna236 03-20-2007 05:21 PM

still got em just in this tank... but actually going to give them to my cousin to put in his 75 gal tank...

Gump 03-20-2007 09:42 PM

I've seen this topic many many times before and would have agreed with SinisterKisses' post about two-three years ago but since then many people have been breeding from rapps like stock including me.

Your fish MAY not be pure but it shows all the signs of being a devil and has no midas traits. Nice fish.

SinisterKisses 03-20-2007 11:32 PM

There isn't enough breeding of pure fish in the hobby at this point to change the fact that about 90 percent of store-bought fish, if not more, are a mix of the two ;)

herna236 03-21-2007 11:53 AM

out of curiosity what are different triats shown by midas and red devils when they are juvies?

SinisterKisses 03-21-2007 12:41 PM

Not much as juveniles. They're easier to differentiate between when they're adults, but typically a pure RD has bigger lips and a more elongated, pointed face and body, whereas a Midas will be much stockier and beefy-looking ;)

herna236 03-21-2007 08:04 PM

well thanks... do you know anything about their growth rate or when a midas or rd would get a hump on his head, I dont know how old me fish is but he about 6, 6.5 inches from head to tail. thanks a lot for the help

Gump 03-21-2007 11:31 PM

There is also a strain of red devils that have very thin lips. Also the eyes show differences as well.

I got my rapps midas pair at 6-7" male and 4" female and both had little humps. From their spawns the most impressive specimens got humps at about 3"

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