a couple of misc cycling questions for a newbie
Thanks in advance for this great Forum and all your helpful articles for beginners. I have read the cycling article on this forum and several other ones on other sites which all have been a wealth of information. I had a couple small questions that I couldn't find the answer too in any of the articles.
I currently have a 10G tank that has been up and running and stocked with fish for about 6 months (i did used a hardy fish and stocked it slowly for that cycle), no issues at all with it. I recently purchased a 45G tank, which is the one I have begun cycling. After reading the advice on here I opted for the Fishless cycle using a dead shrimp as my ammonia source this time around. I added the dead shrimp (in a filter bag so it wouldn't cause a mess) a few days ago. I read in another article that it would help the process if I took some gravel or decorations out of an established tank and added it to the one I am cycling. Obviously my 10Gallon tank can be that source, but is it even worth my while to move over a handful of gravel from that tank (I cant spare a ton from there as it is a small tank) and maybe one decoration? Just wasn't sure if a tad bit of gravel and one decoration would even have a material effect on a much bigger 45G tank?
Also is this good advice (from another fish aquarium website), reason I ask is this is 1st time i have seen using PH down mentions before:
As always thanks in advance
Even a small amount of gravel or other stuff from your 10 should help jump start the cycle. The whole point of cycling is getting a sufficient number of bacteria to handle the load you have on your tank, and of course a large group from an established tank are going to multiply quicker then just a few random already in the tank. I believe a good math analogy would by exponential growth (aka 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, etc) you will reach your optimal levels quicker starting from 8 then from starting from 1 of course so the more you add the quicker you will build up but even some is better then none.
Anyone want to correct me if I am wrong?
Agreed. Every little bit helps, especially if you can put the material from the 10g in a high-flow area of your 45g (i.e. inside the filter).
I've never heard anything about phosphate deficiency before and as far as I know pH down is nothing more than dilute sulfuric acid so doesn't contain phosphates anyway.* I wouldn't bother with that.
Actually, I just confirmed this on API's website. pH Down is just 10% sulfuric acid in a bottle.
A very deliquent on my part thanks for your help. My tank is finally finished being cycled, took a little under a month and about 2 weeks in I realized I might not have had enough ammonia creation going on so tossed in another shrimp which definitely helped speed up the process.
Now its stocking time, hmmmm what to do :)
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