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dre205 04-24-2010 05:58 PM

55g mbuna tank help me get this right please
ive been on this same topic fpr over a month now and yes i still have questions. ive been working on a new african tank setup and you guys told me the flaws of the tank. so i took the tank back down and started over. i have had some bricks in the tank that were on top if the sand instead on top of the glass floor of the tank. yes the bricks are going back in the tank because they raise the pH up to where the africans like it. so now my question is should i go with a species mbuna tank or a mixed mbuna tank for my 55g? if you suggest a mexed please give some combinations of mbuna that would work together in my 55 because i dont plan on upgrading to a bigger tank anytime soon. please try to give their common names if they have one because im not to familar with the scientific names yet. thanks in advance for your suggestions!

bettababy 04-26-2010 02:40 AM

Either way would produce a pretty tank. The question you should be asking yourself is what do you wish to see breed? African cichlids are known for their ease in spawning without any help... and if you mix species you will likely get mixed pairs, and fry from those mixed pairs... unless you take the time to be sure you're getting all fish of the same sex, in which case aggression levels will likely be higher among them, thus lowering the number of fish you can keep peacefully in that size of a tank.
As for what species to mix... keep them close in size as adults, that will help keep things more peaceful and allow you more fish in the tank.

You mentioned you don't wish to set up another tank later. That is also something to consider when choosing your stock. If you mix male/female and provide for them properly, they are sure to spawn... which will leave you needing another tank for fry until you can find an outlet for them. You may want to check with your lfs and ask if they will take fry, and how old/big the fry must be for them to take them... and if there is anything specific they would prefer for species.

When I work with fish that I expect to spawn I make a habit of this, knowing that without an outlet for fry, I would have a mess on my hands. The lfs may be the best place to determine what you wish to keep in regards to species.

iamntbatman 04-27-2010 02:52 AM

Another solution to the fry/breeding issue is to get only male fish. That can be problematic however as many species are difficult to sex. Just something to consider.

dre205 05-22-2010 05:41 PM

thanks all i havnt been online ina while as you can tell, i had to switch back over to gravel as the sand was messing up my fliter. i might go back to it in the future but i will use a canister insead of an impeller. the gravel looks very nice though. i also took out the bricks and put 5 large to mid sized river rocks in too. im gonna add more to my tank. the aficans so far are enjoying their transfer from their cramped 15 to 20 gallon tank at the lfs to the large and open 55 gallon in my room. ive added 2 new africans to the mix- 2 yellowed tailed aceis. i believe i have a male and a female because one is dark and kinda aggressive and the other one is kinda pale colorish. i wanna try to add 2 or three more females to even out the aggression. the golden mbuna or auratus cichlids that i have are from just under an inch long to one inch and a half for those who were wondering in the previous questions. ill have pics of the tank up soon so keep close to this thread for me lol

Grimmjow 05-24-2010 06:42 AM

Auratus are some pretty BA fish, ive heard a lot that a male will rule a tank.

I thought sand was better cause they like to dig and move sand around, i think its panty hose (or w/e) that you can put over the filter intake to block out that sand.

dre205 05-24-2010 02:33 PM

hmmmm a panty hose would save alotta money instead of buying a new filter i might think of that. i saw some pics of a planted tank with some moss all over the floor of the tank. it got me intersted in moss now lol. will africans like the moss?

iamntbatman 05-25-2010 02:55 AM

They might try to eat it (probably without much success) and will probably move it around a lot, but it shouldn't cause any problems if you want to give it a shot.

jpbotha 05-28-2010 10:53 AM

My africans ate every type of plant i had in the tank. At first i thought they dont get enough food but i found out its just in their nature, they reallly enjoyed my plants. After adding some more rock features the plants lasted longer.
Instead of bricks to maintain your ph, just use normal bicarbonate of soda as a buffer to keep your ph between 7,5 - 8.
And some aquarium salt can only do good.

bettababy 05-31-2010 12:26 AM

an easy way to raise pH is to use crushed coral in a mesh sack or a nylon stocking. Just lay it into the filter. This does require you to test pH regularly to keep it stable, (which involves either more water changes or removal of the pouch of crushed coral) but that should be expected no matter what method you use to raise it. The crushed coral is the easiest way to do it, and its safe. There is no chance of overdosing it, and if it jumps a bit high, its easy to remove.

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