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redchigh 04-02-2010 02:39 PM

Water hyacinth! YAY!
 
Ok no pics yet...

Let me explain why I'm so exited!
Water Hyacinths are illegal to import, export, sell commercially, or have it in any natural body of water.
(And yes, if you build an in-ground pond, it counts as a "natural body of water". Go figure.)
I've wanted some for quite a while for my open-top aquarium, but had given up.

Now there's a wildflower sale (local non-profit club) selling plants...
TONS of different things, from blueberry trees, clematis vines, and all kinds of goodies that grow here naturally...

And digging through one of the tables, I noticed some little plastic baggies of spanish moss... and within that pile were a few small plants of water hyacinth.

Hooray for legal loopholes!
Plus, I'm just going to trade tomato plants for them. :)

aunt kymmie 04-02-2010 05:22 PM

Redchigh- Are you in the US?? I want an inground pond and I just assumed I'd have water hyacinth. If it's illegal here I had no idea. Pictures!!

redchigh 04-03-2010 06:01 PM

Yep, I'm in the US. It's not illegal for the country, just a state law.

I'm not sure if it's complete, but here's a short list I found (for alabama, and the entire USA)


Alabama Regulation 220-2-.124: Alabama Nonindigenous Aquatic Plant Control Act
For the purposes of enforcement of Sections 9-20-1 through 9-20-7, Code of Alabama 1975, enacted by Act No. 95-767, as the "Alabama Nonindigenous Aquatic Plant Control Act," the following list of all nonindigenous aquatic plants which are prohibited by Section 9-20-3 from being introduced or placed or caused to be introduced or placed into public waters of the state is established:
African elodea, alligatorweed, Brazilian elodea, curlyleaf pondweed, Eurasian watermilfoil, floating waterhyacinth, giant salvinia, hydrilla, hygrophila, limnophila, parrot-feather, purple loosestrife, rooted waterhyacinth, spinyleaf naiad, water-aloe, water lettuce, water chestnut, and water spinach
Aquatic plants that are illegal under federal law as of June 30, 2006, include: mosquito fern or water velvet (Azolla pinnata), Mediterranean clone of caulerpa (Caulerpa taxifolia), anchored waterhyacinth (Eichornia azurea), hydrilla (Hydrilla verticillato), Miramar weed (Hygrophila polysperma), water-spinach (Ipomoea aquatica), Lagarosiphon major, ambulia (Limnophila sessiliflora), Melaleuca quinquenervia, Monochoria hastata, Ottelia alismoides, arrowhead (Sagittaria sagittifola), giant Salvina (Salvinia auriculata, S. biloba, S. herzogii, and S. molesta), wetland nightshade (Solanum tampicense), exotic bur-reed (Sparganium erectum)

eileen 04-03-2010 07:50 PM

Aunt Kymmie, I live in San Diego California and I was able to buy some at a garden nursery they had alot in a big tub for $2.99 a small floating cluster on water hyacinth. I posted pics in the pond section as I was making a unfiltered tub pond. I think that you can't dump your excess in any river, stream,lake as it spreads like crazy. But the garden nursery had some so it must be ok in california. I know that in Florida it is really bad as someone must have threw their excess in the swamp areas over there.

aunt kymmie 04-03-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eileen (Post 356438)
Aunt Kymmie, I live in San Diego California and I was able to buy some at a garden nursery they had alot in a big tub for $2.99 a small floating cluster on water hyacinth. I posted pics in the pond section as I was making a unfiltered tub pond. I think that you can't dump your excess in any river, stream,lake as it spreads like crazy. But the garden nursery had some so it must be ok in california. I know that in Florida it is really bad as someone must have threw their excess in the swamp areas over there.

Thanks Eileen, good to know! I'm in Carlsbad and drive down to San Diego once a week to get my black worms for my fish. I'm getting pretty fired up about my pond project!

Promelas 04-06-2010 09:47 PM

As somone who works with invasive aquatic plant species, its not uncommon to see plant dealers selling noxious weeds even though technically they shouldn't. There's just no one out there really enforcing the regulations... I don't know California's laws on noxious weeds, but they do have water hyacinth listed as one. I doubt its illegal to own though. If you keep it outdoors just be careful, plants don't make the list if they're easy to contain and unlikely to spread! Seeds always find a way out :)

http://plants.usda.gov/java/noxious?...e&statefips=06

aunt kymmie 04-06-2010 11:55 PM

Regardless of what I get I will be more than careful about anything from my pond making its way to the local waterways. We're not allowed to use profanities here but if I could...there was a local guy down the street from me who dumped his saltwater tank into the storm drain outside his house. That water and everything in it made its way into the Aqua Hedionda lagoon, which is less than a mile from where I live. It's a saltwater lagoon that feeds directly into the ocean. What was in his water? Caulerpa taxifolia.

The lagoon was shut down for nearly an entire year (This is the lagoon we ski, paddleboard and kayak on) while marine biologists and divers did everything in their power to contain and eliminate it before it made its way into the ocean. The team did a tremendous job and were successful in their task. Of course, we can never prove it was him (but we all know who it was) and I'd love to out him publicly on this forum. But alas, I'm not a vindictive person.

Promelas 04-07-2010 08:50 AM

Yeah I wish more people paid attention to the consequences of their actions! I never understood why some people think it's a good idea to dump stuff in local waterways, it can really mess ecosystems up!

redchigh 04-07-2010 09:09 AM

In response to the easy to contain comment...

One of the two big problems are flooding and birds when it comes to plants spreading from ponds...

but of course larger plants like water hyacinth(?) probably aren't as prone to spreading...
but duckweed, azolla, and others will spread on ducks/frogs etc, and maybe even large insects.

Things like anarchis are dangerous because even though they grow large, the tiniest piece of a leaf can send out a little root, and eventually the root will grow a stem...
(I've seen it happen with water wisteria- a piece of leaf less than 1/8th inch across is about to form its own plant... already has roots and a nub where the stem is forming... Hygrophila is illegal here, probably for that reason... along with anarchis.

Also, in alabama at least... it's not illegal to own, but it is technically illegal to sell or give away to someone to put it where it COULD reach public water... So I suppose it's okay to share things with aquarists, but not ponders.

Promelas 04-07-2010 12:15 PM

+1 to redchigh on what he said!


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