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AnnieH 04-25-2014 10:06 AM

Advise for cleaning a 55 gallon aquarium I am rescuing
 
I hope someone will be able to help me rather quickly. I'm hoping to rescue a 55 gallon aquarium today with five fish in it. I have no experience with aquariums but have always wanted one and am willing to put in the time to learn.

I have read how to move it. My problem is that the tank has not been taken care of as the original owner was elderly and his daughter left it at the house. The house is sold and I am getting it from the estate sale the ends tomorrow.

The tank is very dirty. My avatar is a photo of it, but it's difficult to see.

Should I rinse the gravel and the decorations in it? They're covered with funky stuff. Is there a special kind of solution to use to clean those and the inside of the tank itself? I will be completely emptying the tank for the move and would like to get it clean and the water at the right ph.

Any advise will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

keepsmiling 04-25-2014 10:16 AM

Hello, I would put the fish in a sterilite or rubbermaid container with an airstone and fresh dechlorinated water. I recommend a large bottle of Seachem Prime{you will need it, try to find the 2 litre}
I would wash the tank out with white vinegar or a light bleach solution. Your choice to keep or replace the substrate. I personally would replace it. I would also suggest you ditch it before the move. Lifting the tank with a wet bottom full of heavy gravel can easily pop the bottom. Good luck with your rescue.

keepsmiling 04-25-2014 10:19 AM

You should also have on hand some good test kits to restart your cycle. API makes good kits. You will need PH, Ammonia, Nitrite, and Nitrate.
I would change the water with the fish daily. Feed very lightly while they are in there.

Sylverclaws 04-25-2014 10:20 AM

If it has fish in it, and you're keeping it, then no you don't want to take out the gravel and wash it. You will need a gravel vacuum though.

I personally wouldn't suggest popping them in a container unless you know how to keep it right, and even then, because they will already be stressed and you don't want them worse. Especially since what you need done will also make things...well, my fish like water changes, they always pick on me when I do them and get all curious. lol Many get stressed out though. That and they're likely in dirty conditions, and the going directly from dirty to clean water can actually kill them.

Be sure you tell them to keep the filter media in a bag of TANK water for you so it doesn't kill off the beneficial bacteria and send your tank into a cycle.

As for the outside of the tank, I like to use either normal water and a washcloth, or if really bad I use a vinegar and salt mix with hot water, helps get off some of the tough stuff, just don't get it in the tank and be careful with the wood, just use water or wood cleaner for it(if fumey cover the tank until the place is aired out) and be sure you dry it well.

As for cleaning inside...don't do it too fast! I mean, if they drain it a lot for the move, which they will probably have to, you wont get much say there...(see if you can take a turkey baster and put it in the gravel and suck out gunk in at least half the tank, leave the other half for another time, you don't want to shock the fish anymore than they will be from the move and already likely large water change, going from dirty to clean when it hasn't been cared for can hurt them. The turkey baster will allow you to get right to the grit, but you will have to knock gravel out here and there lol).

Make sure you get yourself the water conditioners you need, and a testing kit, you will NEED a testing kit(preferably a liquid test kit as strips are rarely accurate) to make sure you don't have ammonia and nitrites spikes. Which will likely be there...if the tank somehow comes with most of the water, do a 30% change right off, use prime to help detoxify any toxins and condition your water, do it again tomorrow, and if your test kit shows ammonia or nitrItes after that, you can go with bigger water changes(40% or so). You may need to go with bigger changes and risk it if you have more than 30ppm of ammonia in the tank....

Lost my train of thought when someone broke a dish....hope I didn't forget anything important. lol Good luck with your new tank, just take it slow, make sure you keep up on research, and research the fish you're getting with the tank to be sure you have all their needs.

keepsmiling 04-25-2014 10:22 AM

I wouldn't worry about keeping the bacteria. Just restart and re-cycle.

AnnieH 04-25-2014 10:58 AM

Thank you both for the help. I will be moving it myself, so I plan to put the fish in water from the tank while I work on the cleaning the aquarium.

The gravel is pretty nasty and replacing it sounds good if it will not kill the fish. Should I keep some of it and add it to the new so it keeps some of the good bacteria?

How do I determine if it is a fresh or saltwater tank? I know this sounds very stupid, but I am truly a beginner. I think it may e saltwater because there is a white residue on the top panels that come off on the outside. I am thinking this is called salt creep.

Romad 04-25-2014 11:05 AM

Could also be calcium and scale buildup from freshwater since the tank wasn't really maintained very well.

I wish we could tell from your picture :( If you do purchase the tank, bring some 5 gallon buckets and get some of that Prime water conditioner too.

And since it's going to take a long time to clean that sucker, the bucket with an airstone is a pretty good idea.
There might even be an airstone in the tank??

Hopefully you can get pics of the tank equipment and fish to post here soon.

Crossing fingers for you.

keepsmiling 04-25-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieH (Post 4360738)

How do I determine if it is a fresh or saltwater tank?

Stick your finger in it and taste it.:lol: Seriously if it is saltwater you are in for a much more difficult learning curve. Can you get pics of the fish? If the substrate is that dirty, it's not worth trying to save any bacteria. The filter is probably just as filthy. Get clear pics of everything and we can guide you. Drop some Prime in the water with the fish. This will neutralize any ammonia, or high nitrates. The tank is going to recycle with all this upset anyway, so you might as well start off with a clean system.

AnnieH 04-25-2014 11:22 AM

You guys are so awesome. I just messaged the sale to make sure it hasn't sold. Chances are unlikely since I work for them and none of the people who came to buy there yesterday even seemed to notice it. Not a big market here for fish tanks since it is a big military base and everyone moves around quite a bit.

If it is still there, I'll go get some photos for you to take a look at. I will also stop at the store and get the supplies (air stone) that I will need. There is a huge basket of stuff there I found and put it with the tank. I just don't know what the products are or what they do yet :) I don;t think there is an airstone in there, but there are two things that have long tubes that move the air around. One on each side of the tank.

More to follow! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I so want to save these fish

AnnieH 04-25-2014 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by keepsmiling (Post 4360826)
Can you get pics of the fish? If the substrate is that dirty, it's not worth trying to save any bacteria. The filter is probably just as filthy. Get clear pics of everything and we can guide you. Drop some Prime in the water with the fish. This will neutralize any ammonia, or high nitrates. The tank is going to recycle with all this upset anyway, so you might as well start off with a clean system.

I will some good photos asap.

Should I stop at the store on my way there and buy the Prime and add it when I get there? How much should I add to the tank?:oops:

The plan is to begin moving it late this afternoon.


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