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MrBishop 03-03-2010 10:43 AM

Acei not growing
 
Hi

I put 2 Acei in my tank along with other malawi's and 1 of them hasnt seem'd to of grown.

I put them both in at the same time and they were both the same size. 1 is now about 3inches and the other is still about 1 inch. its not mixing with the other fish and is always bullied over food.

what is the problem and should i be worried for his health?

Cheers Dan

bettababy 03-03-2010 02:22 PM

Can you offer more information about your set up please?

What size is the tank?
How many fish total? What species/how many of each?
Water params for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH? (these should be taken before a water change to obtain an accurate reading)
Water temp?
Foods offered? How often do you feed the fish? How much at a time?

The more info you can provide about the tank set up and animals in it, the easier it will be for someone to accurately answer your questions.

MrBishop 03-04-2010 05:00 AM

What size is the tank?
65gal
How many fish total? What species/how many of each?
2 Yellow Labs
2 Acei
2 Red Zebras
2 Parrots
1 Convict
1 Livingstone
1 Maingano
1 Pleco

12 in total.

Water params for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH? (these should be taken before a water change to obtain an accurate reading)
Just over 7 i would say.
Water temp?
23*c
Foods offered?
Tetramin Tropical
How often do you feed the fish?
Once a day
How much at a time?
As much as they will eat

mollies 03-04-2010 08:53 AM

If it were me i would rehome a few of them.
livingstone, convict and the parrots.
The livingstone will get way to big and aggresive for the rest of the fish.
The convict is from a New world or SA cichlid.
The parrots will be bullied by The Mbuna's.
Your acei that is not growing as fast is Probly a female i noticed with all of my cichlids the females dont grow that fast. And if bullied they realy stunt there growth speed.

bettababy 03-04-2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBishop (Post 337442)
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Water params for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH? (these should be taken before a water change to obtain an accurate reading)
Just over 7 i would say.

I'm not understanding this answer, I'm sorry. I am assuming the pH is just over 7? I really do need to know readings for each test, exact numbers. There is no other way to determine if environment has anything to do with the problem... those numbers are very important.

I also have to agree with Molly, not just because of the points made about incompatibility, but the environment needed for these fish is very different for African cichlids vs SA cichlids. There is also the problem that all of these fish together will get far too big for a 65 gallon tank.

If you decide to rehome /separate them, please know that the convict cichlid cannot stay with the parrots either. The convict is going to be much more aggressive than the parrots, and have much better swimming ability. If kept together long term, I would expect the convict to rip apart the parrot cichlids. 1 convict can do a lot of damage in a very short time. As the convict matures the aggression level will grow with it.

It is also possible that water quality has something to do with the slower growth, as well as the bullying that was already mentioned. Aside from nitrate levels that at this point we don't know anything about, if pH is only just over 7.0, that is a bit low for the African cichlids. African cichlids thrive in harder water with a pH of 8.0 - 8.2. The 7.0+ is more suited for the SA cichlids.

I'm wondering how long it takes for the fish in your tank to completely finish the food you give them and if everyone is getting sufficient nutrition? Tropical flake food is ok for part of their diet, but most of the fish in your tank should have other variety to achieve good nutrition. There are a wide variety of foods to choose from that can be alternated with the flakes. Live black worms, brine shrimp (frozen or live), cichlid pellets (2 different types of pellets would be needed as African cichlids are heavy vegetarians but SA cichlids tend to be omnivore but needing a much more high protein diet.

I hope all of this info is helpful to you. If you post your water params for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate... then we can sort out if there are water quality issues contributing to your problem as well. If there isn't a water quality problem now, there is sure to be as these fish begin to grow.


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