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Mikeyboi86 02-28-2010 08:15 PM

Looking for opinions!
Hello Hello, Been coming up with a tank setup I want to try and I want to know your opinions!

Anyway lets start with tank size obviously. I am wanting a 57 Gallon framless tank. Indonesian Biotope or as close as i can get to it!

Striata Botia Loach- 3
Tiger barb-
Green - 9
Normal - 5
Albino - 4
Siamese Algea eaters - 3
Moonlight gouramis - 2 (pair)

Limnophila Sessiliflora - along the back of the tank.
Pellia- On any rock work i may have
Vallisneria spiralis - weaving through any drift wood i may have.
Eleocharis acicularis - Foreground
Riccia - Floating
Nymphaea lostus- Floating/ foreground corner.

Any suggestions? Comments? Advice? please let me know!

Angel079 02-28-2010 08:34 PM

The barb selection ok.
The Botia alright; thou I donno if they'd behave better in larger groups.
The Siamese I'd really only get when you can house them in group of like 6+ and that's not possible with your tank size and other choices. So in your set up you may be much happier with a group of Oto's like 6-8 of them.
The peaceful Gouramis I'd def not add to the mix listed above.

For the plants, neat list but unless you get a bunch of each of the plants that's not gonna fill that tank out much so either up the number of plants each or add more/ other plants :-)

Mikeyboi86 02-28-2010 08:44 PM

eh otos are south american... Know any Indonesian algae eater types? or another type of gourami i can pair that are found throughout southeast asian and indonesia? and are you sure that the size of the moonlights wont keep them safe? I mean the do get about 7" And they aren't exactly slow movers.

Also the plants, I didnt put any quantities, but i do plan on getting a lot of each kind. The hair grass I want to be in a big "lawn" like patch in the fore ground. Limnophila Sessiliflora is gunna be ALL along the back of the tank making a "forest" I want pellia COVERING my rock work.

Also I just realized that it looks like i want 2 pairs of gouramis.... so anyone that reads down this far I want 2 gouramis making 1 pair.

Mikeyboi86 02-28-2010 09:07 PM

OOO! anyone know where Chocolate gouramis can be found naturally? (Hoping Indonseia somewhere)

Angel079 02-28-2010 09:32 PM

Apart from water parameters what I'd look at with any set up is:
Compatibility (active vs peaceful fish)
Tank size vs stock of all adults fish considered (avoid overstocking)
In what group sizes fish will be happy (and so with healthy)
And last but not least for the fish I've housed myself my pers exp :-)

If you get all you have listed in the OP and a add pair of gouramis it is very safe to say your 57g is well overstocked and mixed with calmer fish vs super active fish, personally I'd not wanna go for that kinda set up but it ain't my tank.

Angel079 02-28-2010 09:42 PM

This may be interesting for ya Freshwater fish of Indonesia

Mikeyboi86 02-28-2010 09:46 PM

Okay. I gotcha. Do you happen to know what minimum amount of tiger barbs i can keep to keep them from fin nipping other tankmates (Hopefully!)?? I do like the idea of mixing the colors!

Angel079 02-28-2010 09:55 PM

I have 9 (Albino) Tiger Barbs in my 55g set up, no nipper issues there. I'd at least get a group of 6 of them, if you see issues add 1-2 more. They're not very notorious (like certain Tetras) to be fin nippers.

aunt kymmie 02-28-2010 09:55 PM

I've got a pair of Siamese Algae Eaters and they do perfectly fine as a pair. I can't say I've ever heard of them needing to be in a group?? As far as the botia I'd do a minumum of five, with most loaches the more the merrier. Just my 2 cents.

Mikeyboi86 02-28-2010 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Angel079 (Post 335078)
This may be interesting for ya Freshwater fish of Indonesia

Oh wow thanks

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