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squiggles1 02-28-2007 03:27 PM

i know that every site i read says not to breed pet store bettas because u shouldnt further the unpure gene pool but i kind of want to try to breed my bettas and i got them from a pet store. i don't think they are to old yet, i got them when they were fairly small. i just dont want to feel horrible that im experimenting with bettas i havent ordered. plus there's the fact that we all know what happens to bettas in pet stores if i was successful and couldnt find a place for all the babies. i like bettas and all my males and females are so pretty (imo :) ). has anyone tried breeding pet store bettas before? any result?

scottysgirl 02-28-2007 03:44 PM

I just tried to breed my bettas, they are also from a regular store. I put the female in a chimney and the male in the tank, and he flared and puffed and built a bubble nest, but when I let the female out they just ignore each other! It is so weird, they don't even chase each other around or anything! So I guess I can't help you much but you could google 'betta breeding' and should get results.

squiggles1 03-01-2007 11:41 AM

well i got my bettas in there, temp around 80, and put part of a cup at the waters surface. so far he's been showing off for her and he built his bubblenest in the cup. so i let her out but no eggs yet. he mostly is just guarding the nest becuase when she goes to look at it she destroys it. she's not aggresive towards him, she swims with her head down which is apparently good. maybe shes not in the mood or he's to old. if anything exciting happens then thatl be cool

squiggles1 03-02-2007 11:32 AM

my bettas are, well um...u know trying to make babies! she must be satisfied with his nest because she's in the upside down half cup with him and they keep embracing. no eggs yet that ive seen but i've read that they sometimes have to try for awhile. she's definitly got eggs in there but he hasn't been able to quite squeeze them out yet. kind of fascinating to see, i didnt really know if they would or not. hopefully they get to finish. then ill have to take the female out so she doesnt eat them.

squiggles1 03-02-2007 11:56 AM

eggs! shes releasing her eggs! now everytimne he embraces her and she turns upside down 5 or 6 eggs come out. then he goes and collects them and puts them in the nest. she kind does but as he collects them she bites him. i think some are getting eaten but theres still goin to be some little bitty betta babies! :D

fish_4_all 03-02-2007 02:02 PM

Can you give some more specific on how you got them to breed? Tank size, how much water, temp, foods, a picture would be awesome to show the setup if you can get one. This owuld help others to get an idea of how to do this.

As for breeding them from a LFS, these strains come from better genes and if you can keep the genes new and not inbreed then you should see the better colors and fin shapes start to come out. It would mean culling some if you can't sell them but getting the better strains and nicer fish is good for the hobby and hopefully could lead to better fish in more locations. Just MHO.

squiggles1 03-02-2007 02:49 PM

to be honest i wasn't necessarily going to breed my bettas. we set up a tank and were using one of our males to cycle it. my husband was like" why don't we see if we can get them to breed?" so i did some research and basically what u do is this: get a tank with no gravel on the bottom works best. bring the temp up to 80-82. put in the male and then put in a female in something where they can't get to each other. i just out her in one of those floating breeding tanks. then i put in a little cup half way. what i read was to cut a styrofoam cup in half and tape it to the wall. then after they see each other he'll start building a bubbl nest. only after he builds it can you let them in together. my female didnt actually look like she had any eggs in her until she saw the male. it took him about 2 days to get around to building a good nest in the cup. she got fatter and fatter. anyway they were in together for about a day under supervision in case they really started hurting each other. nipping was expected. this morning they started to embrace. (they male would wrap himself around her and they would turn over until she was upside down). at first nothing happened. but they kept at it and eventually eggs started to come out. apparently the female can have up to 500 eggs so thats alot of bettas. if either of their lives seem in danger at anytime you have to seperate them. They male and sometimes the female will collect the eggs and put them in the nest. In my case the male would collect the ones still floating near him and the female would go to the bottom to get the rest. You should take the female out once she starts to hide from the male. She will eat the eggs then. The nale will gurad the nest while the eggs are ni there but take him out once they eggs hatch or you van see tails sticking out, approx 2-3 days. i'm going to feed the fry mashed blood worms (a girl at pet store said thats what she does). hopefully everything goes well. i would love to post pics of mine breeding but i don't have my camera right now. heres pics from a site on breeding them the first is them embracing the second is just after when she releses eggs. o and she only releses 10-15 at a time so they do this for awhile. Also you should treat them good after doing this because it's hard on them.

squiggles1 03-02-2007 02:59 PM

also i forgot to mention that if male bettas are to far over a year old they may not have enough interest to breed. and i just took my female out and they were doing their thing for 5 hours.

fish_4_all 03-02-2007 04:38 PM

Sounds like you did your research. I would look for some more foods to feed them though because bloodworms are not a good full time food. Crush some quality flakes to a fine powder, get some egg yolks, boiled and take very small amount, add to water mixing to get a slurry and then add small drops to where the fish seem to hang out. Some java moss in the tank will help also so they have some natural food growing. You can also use micro worms and vinegar eels as well as grindal worms when they get free swimming. I prefer live foods for fry but it isn't neccesary.

Keep us updated on your rearing success. You are off to a great start.

squiggles1 03-03-2007 07:25 AM

thanks i'll keep you posted. :D

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