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glosrob 02-01-2010 06:49 AM

Idea for Setup in 10g - Harlequins
I pretty much have everything I need to start cycling my tank this weekend.

Assuming this will take a good few weeks I was at a few LFS checking out what fish they had an offer and was quite taken by some Harlequin Rasbora's and also some Japonica Shrimp.

So questions:
The advice at the shop was to keep the Harlequin's in groups of at least 6 - does this sound reasonable and also would 6 be ok in 10g tank (that will be planted).

My question regarding the shrimp is just out of interest: most of the pictures/information I see on them online have them as either fairly transparent or a whitish-grey colour, but the shrimp at this shop were quite a bright red. Are they likely still Japonica shrimp ;-) ? They were tiny little things but incredibly amusing to watch - they can neither swim nor walk efficiently it seems, being brilliantly stuck somewhere between the two.

Angel079 02-01-2010 07:25 AM

They would be better up as a group in a 15g....That said if you get the 6 only and then no other fish and have PLENTY of plants so they can hide away from one another where needed I'd think you're fine (if you meet their water need with a pH not to exceed 7.5).

There's just about as many different shrimp out there then fish. What you describe seeing only is ghost fish; what you describe seeing at the store fully red is Red Cherry Shrimps. And yes I have tanks set up for just them and they're a blast to watch lol.

glosrob 02-01-2010 08:33 AM

Just quickly searched for Red Cherry Shrimp and that is definitely the ones I saw in the shop, obviously they have been mislabelled (which makes me wonder did they order cherry shrimp and think they had japonica or order japonica, get sent cherry and assume they were japonica without checking... or... actually no now my brain hurts).

Very funny nontheless.

The tank is going to be planted, I guess whether it is 'plenty' depends on how you define plenty :)

(edit: plenty not heavily)

Angel079 02-01-2010 08:50 AM

Well as "much" as some these stores know about fish....I am NOT surprised they labeled them wrong; at least they didn't try selling them as being crickets.....
I pers find my tanks a well planted tank lol so check out the aquarium log to your left.

glosrob 02-02-2010 02:45 AM

Yeah I was planning on a similar amount (for the tank size), so based on what you've said and what I've read elsewhere I should be ok.

I think I'll go back in next week and ask them if they are aware that it is mislabelled and see what they say :)

jeaninel 02-02-2010 03:15 AM

I had 6 Harlies in a 10 gallon planted with Crypt Wendtii, Anubias Nana, Java Fern and Anacharis. It was a nice little tank. Eventually I moved the Harlies to a 37 gallon and turned the 10 gallon into a QT.

glosrob 02-02-2010 05:20 AM

Oh right cool, I take it they were happy enough whilst they were in there?

Angel079 02-02-2010 08:50 AM

I'd want to encourage you to let this tank fully cycle, then let it start establishing some with the fish and then maybe like half year down the Rd add shrimp. They're VERY VERY sensitive to any NO peaks or Ammonia, any lil peak can kill the whole gang flat out over night and I doubt you want that. And in a new tank these even lil peaks are unavoidable.

jeaninel 02-02-2010 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by glosrob (Post 317732)
Oh right cool, I take it they were happy enough whilst they were in there?

Yeah, they did great. I even had a couple African Dwarf frogs in with them at one point. But, yeah, on the shrimp make sure your tank is well established before adding them.

eileen 02-03-2010 11:11 AM

I had a 6 gal tank that had 3 Harlequen Rasboras and a cory and endlers. The school of 3 were fine in my small planted tank. When I got a bigger tank of 55 gal. I added the 3 Harlequen Rasbnoras and bought 3 more. I was able to get some dwarf Espe's Rasboras that are smaller in size then the Harlequen I bought 6 of them at a local fish store I payed 6 for $10. They now school with the bigger Harlequen Rasboras and are really cute. You might want to look for Espe's Rasboras as they are smaller and will do great in a 10 gal. tank with a couple of other fish like dwarf corys and something else that might go well with them like dwarf coral sunset platies get 1 sex only as they will produce baby fish.Petsmart has these fish all the time.. All Dwarf fishes are perfect for a small tank set up like yours.Endlers are great except I would only buy the males as you will have excess of baby fish from a trio and besides the males are nicer looking over the drap females.

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