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Bamboo_Kitten_Shark 02-24-2007 09:46 PM

55g Tank
Ok, i decided to start with some small cute fish. So, i am planning on breeding either cardinals, firefish gobies, mandarin gobies, or maby some type of butterflyfish. but i will probably go with the first 3 small species. would i ahve room in a 55g to breed the firefish, cardinals, and mandarin gobies? or just two of the three or just one?

i'd like to get a radiata lionfish as the 'king' of the tank. i'll make sure he is always well fed, and he won't really bother the other fish if there is plenty of hiding spots and stuff will he/her?

i have to go for the night, please give suggestions!

musho3210 02-24-2007 09:49 PM

Well first, i highly doubt those species of fish will breed at a regular basis if they even breed at all in the home aquaria.

Why dont you try breeding clownfish, try getting a bubble tip anemone and very strong MH lighting, 10 wpg with 14,000k lights is best. Then get a mating pair of clowns and hope for the best

Melissa 02-25-2007 06:53 AM

most saltwater fish do not breed in the home aquaria.

caferacermike 02-25-2007 10:09 AM

Your best bet would be seahorses, Bangaii cardinals, and clowns. Do not even attempt to put a mandarin in a 55g as it needs will not be met and most likely will starve to death. Adding a lion fish to the tank will absolutely put an end to any breeding activity. If you get a lion put it by itself in a 55g with no other fish.

musho3210 02-25-2007 12:01 PM

have you thought of breeding freshwater fish? I know some freshwater fish are hard to breed but it is possible, otociculus are hard to breed but it has been documented, the ram chichlids take a long time to breed and can probably earn you some money, i bought my rams for 11.99 american dollars each so im guessing the ones that you grow will be 3-6 dollars. Plus the freshwater fish have a much higher survival rate than saltwater bred fish, saltwater ones you will need to feed mico-plankton, micro-algae, lots of micro stuff that takes a while to make and there survival rate is 100:1. Try fragging corals or breeding freshwater fish if you want to make a penny, saltwater fish is just for kicks and you will lose money rather than gain money on that.

Bamboo_Kitten_Shark 02-25-2007 04:48 PM

like i've told you before musho, i'm very experienced in breeding freshwater clams, shrimp, snails, and fish. basically the only freshwater animal i've not breed atleast once is crabs. and i was going to try that once but i didn't want to turn my crawdadd's aquarium into a crab aquairium, he would probably not like others in with him.

so yeah, i've breed tons of freshwater things musho.

also, musho, firefish and mandarin gobies, plus like the other person said, the cardinals, will breed in a home aquarium.

if i do go with the reef tank i will probably get a type of goby. but i may go with clownfish also. in a 55g, i could have the lionfish, and breed gobies and a small species of clownfish.

any suggested species if i go with getting a 55g?

i'm still debating on trying the shark or getting the 55g. (see my other thread about the shark if your interested in an item lists and some interesting reading material)

usmc121581 02-25-2007 04:54 PM


if i do go with the reef tank i will probably get a type of goby. but i may go with clownfish also. in a 55g, i could have the lionfish, and breed gobies and a small species of clownfish.

The reason you dont want to put a lionfish in a tank you are tring to breed small clownfish or whatever you wanted to try and breed is because the lionfish would have a snack whenever it wanted to after the fry hatched. Also breeding saltwater fish can be alot harder then breeding freshwater but you should now that. :D

Bamboo_Kitten_Shark 02-25-2007 04:58 PM

yeah, i knew it is harder. i really hope that last sentance wasn't sarcasim...

a well fed lionfish shouldn't attack other fishes in the tank. the worst thign that could happen is a fish goes blind and runs into one of his fins.

and for the fry, all pregnant fish will probably not be in with the lionfish in the main tank. i'll probably use a 20-25 gallon for the birth and the development of the babies until a certain size.

usmc121581 02-25-2007 05:12 PM


yeah, i knew it is harder. i really hope that last sentance wasn't sarcasim...
I said it because you seem like you been tring to research it, so you would know that its harder. And has for the lionfish it will eat whatever it wants to even though you are feeding it. But if you remove the fry or eegs before they hatch. He would never get a taste of what they would taste like.

Bamboo_Kitten_Shark 02-25-2007 05:16 PM

so a well fed lionfish could eat the adult fish still? i won't have to worry about him eating the fry, they will be gone by the time they hatch, or by the time the female gives birth.

i am guessing you can't, but what are the chances that a snowflake eel could be in there too? i was origanlly just gonna have the lionfish and eel, but i wanted to breed some cute little gobies or something. would there be room for him? i'm having trouble imagining the tank with some live rock, little fish and a lionfish, i can't imagine whether there would be room or not.

so would the eel fit in or not?

(i may be selling some dead coral that came with the live rock, it was suposivly live rock, but there was only a couple red things growing on it, not even algae, anything. so keep an eye out, i may be selling some dead coral that would make good decoration in a reef tank)

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