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FrogHerder 01-22-2010 04:48 PM

Moving :/
 
OK. So we successfully battled the mystery illness, managed to rehab the 40 gallon, just spent an entire Saturday evening planting hairgrass with tweezers as an exercise in zen, have all 3 tanks cycled and healthy, and now we're moving... 4 hours away. :frustrated:

I really should be more excited, but ugh :roll: my poor critters.

Any suggestions on getting plants/fish/aquaria to the other end of the state in one piece and maybe without having them kick into a big cycle when we get there?

Angel079 01-22-2010 05:12 PM

Here's what you wanna do - Plan in 1 day for your 3 tanks.

Start in the Am by draining the tank way down; taking your big plants out (leave hairgrass and small ground covers in place. Catch all fish out & separate them into buckets with lids.
Dep on your filters sizes ave 1-2 extra buckets for just the filters to keep them wet in tank water you have drained during transport.
Then pack it all up ideally in 1 go. Go to your new house; ideally have already located the spots you wantyour tanks at prior to arrive set up stands & tanks and refill tanks. Hook up and power up pump as soon as you got enough water
Wait till you reach the necessary temp in the tanks and then settle your fish & plants back in.
If you're moving during VERY cold weather conditions you may want to get these Styrofoam coolers at Walmart to get your fish warm during transport.

It is helpful for such a undertaking if you have a few extra hands to help carry water buckets to empty & refill as quickly as possible to minimize the time the fish have to stay in buckets.

Otherwise no problem & just stay calm and have a cool drink prepared for when you're done :-)

FrogHerder 01-22-2010 06:14 PM

Thanks for the suggestions, Angel079. Puts my mind a little more at ease about the whole thing. I had this picture in my mind of clumps of floating hairgrass, gasping fish, 12" swords snapped off at the base, and weeks of daily pwc in all 3 tanks.

Any ideas about how many gallons per inch of fish or anything like that for them to stay comfortable in a styrofoam cooler for 5-6 hours?

Angel079 01-22-2010 08:00 PM

Assuming you're using a vehicle that has a heater (meaning a post 1960 Model) easiest will prop be big buckets with lids for ya. If you get a cool to keep them warm, use bag's inside of them...having a leaking cooler on fish ain't very cool at all.

How long to you have to travel from point A-B? Dep on that I'd put anywhere's from 10-20 fish in 1x3/4g bucket...dep on what fish you have (eg tiny Tetras or large Oscars?)

When I broke down & moved a total of 7 or 8 tanks (can't remember exactly) what'll take you the longest is draining & refill - What does work WONDERS thou is getting a lil pump (like a sump pump for the yard just on a smaller scale) and a hose long enough to reach from any of your tanks to the next best sink....suck that down in minutes :-)

FrogHerder 01-23-2010 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel079 (Post 310960)
Assuming you're using a vehicle that has a heater (meaning a post 1960 Model) easiest will prop be big buckets with lids for ya. If you get a cool to keep them warm, use bag's inside of them...having a leaking cooler on fish ain't very cool at all.

How long to you have to travel from point A-B? Dep on that I'd put anywhere's from 10-20 fish in 1x3/4g bucket...dep on what fish you have (eg tiny Tetras or large Oscars?)

When I broke down & moved a total of 7 or 8 tanks (can't remember exactly) what'll take you the longest is draining & refill - What does work WONDERS thou is getting a lil pump (like a sump pump for the yard just on a smaller scale) and a hose long enough to reach from any of your tanks to the next best sink....suck that down in minutes :-)

7 or 8 tanks? :shock: And I'm whining about 3. :lol:

Moving about 250 mi away. Figuring 4 hours driving and an hour or two on each end for teardown/setup maybe 6-8 hours total.

I had considered that styrofoam might be unreliable. Thanks for the tip about the bags. 5 gallon buckets popped into my head earlier, but I like the idea of the smaller ones much better. I do recall seeing some smaller pails at home depot. Thinking maybe those are the way to go.

livestock-
male betta (went after my hand last week)
3 white skirt tetra (1-3/4 to 2-1/2")
2 ADF's (the female can get snippy with fish)
2 corys
6 harlequin rasbora

Don't trust the betta. He'll get his own bucket. The white skirts by themselves. The frogs by themselves. And maybe the corys and harlequins in a bucket? Will the ammonia get out of control in any of these? Maybe if I put enough prime in with them it won't matter so much?

Oh, and the plants and filter pads. So 3 more buckets. 7 total and maybe one for the pumice stone. Sound about right?

m4d1 01-23-2010 05:35 AM

also?
 
Would it help to keep some of the drained water in extra buckets, if you have any? or does it matter?

Angel079 01-23-2010 10:35 AM

Yea you'll do just fine.
I always carry a Styrofoam box in the car *just in case* I find fish while out & about. The nice thing about them is not only do they keep fish warm, but my biggest plus on using them is its dark - Fish are stressed less. Any home store will have you different sized buckets with lit's, just get any dark color for them if you're buying new one's anyway. You CAN gladly get a 5g...me I use the smaller one's cause I'm just a tiny person with limited arm strength :lol:

Alright here's how I'd bag them guys:
Betta sep in his own bag
White Skirts & Rasbora in 1 bucket
Corys in 1 bucket
ADFs in 1 bucket

So you'd need 3 small buckets (~2-3g) reason I sep Betta is obvious. ADFs can get upset when stressed, so just to make sure they don't stress the Cory I'd sep them. I know its sounding stupid to bag 2 fish alone, but rather safe then sorry right?

Naw just like I said in order to catch them all in the frist place take out your larger plants, these gotta go in some water anyway so just stick a few plants in to each bucket and that'll do the trick right there :-)

So dep on how many big plants you have there you should be either able to spread them among the 3 buckets or need a 4th one in which you can then also toss your filter pads, wheels etc. (PS see if you got a Lows, I recently got some there with lids for $2 each in dark blue they were like 2-2.5g)

And I'd NOT keep old tank water, its full of waste and they only thing you'd do is carry over waste and that's not necessary nor beneficial.

Just fill up the tanks in the new house with water conditioner (prime etc) and get the heat & filters going.

And jjuusssttt to be safe, have a working liquid test kit on hand to check the water over the next few days, nothing should pop up....but we all know tanks and nothing rarely goes by the books right :lol: And for your "harigrass" tank, make sure to leave 1-2" water in it just so the plants stay wet and don't dry out on you.

frmrgrl87 01-24-2010 05:15 PM

I am originally from upstate NY and moved to Houston, TX.. while in TX i aquired and set up a fish tank.. Situations changed and i had to return to NY in a hurry. At that point, i had had my tank set up for a month and a half. My inhabitants were 5 serpaes, 2 silver mollies (females), 1 rainbow shark, 3 black skirts, and 3 GloFish. I couldn't find new homes for my fish in the day and a half i had to pack and leave, so i put all the fish and the plants in a 5 gallon bucket and drove them home in my car, with air bubbles at night when i stopped at hotels. This was in mid-November, so the temperatures were definately optimal for my TROPICAL fish, but when i got home, four days later, my fish were all very pale, but still alive. They are back in their tank with some new friends and all are doing very well.

In short, a bucket (or two considering your variety of species), as crude as it may seem, will probably be the cheapest method of transporting your little finned friends.

FrogHerder 02-09-2010 03:25 PM

Huge roadblock.

We are moving to an extremely rural agricultural area. After we found our new place, I took a water sample from the tap home with me.

Ammonia - 0
Nitrite - 0.25 ppm
Nitrate - 80 ppm

:sick:

Is it even possible to keep a healthy aquarium with that much nitrite and nitrate starting out? Don't wanna be drinking that crud either. Anyone know what the most economical way to get the water conditioned?

RO unit?
Water softener?
40 gal/week Deep Rock Delivery?

Have about a week to come up with something before we move in.

TY,

Da Frog

jaysee 02-09-2010 03:43 PM

Did you use a liquid test?

I'm moving on monday - granted only 2 minutes away :-) I'm devoting 2 days to moving tanks.


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