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Picklee 02-22-2007 02:11 AM

Poor Goldfish
 
I had an article written on the excessive abuse the goldfish take and the stress that they undergo. Here's the link: http://www.helium.com/tm/173655/grea...-owners-little

JackBauer 02-23-2007 11:33 AM

Thanks for that read. My son just got a free goldfish yesterday from the LFS for his birthday, and we've been trying to figure out what to do.

Picklee 02-23-2007 11:44 AM

No problem! :) I guess I didn't really include too much information on what the set-up should look like. I'd recommend at least a 3-4 gallon aquarium, although some say at minimum a 20 gallon tank with proper filtration and heating just for one, but that's really overkill. A small filter would greatly reduce your maintenance on the fish, just some cheapo would run maybe $7-$10. You are still required to make 20-25% water changes every week or so, as with all fish tanks. Just don't bother him and let the little guy rest for a while and he should be fine.

Elahrairah 02-23-2007 01:00 PM

My wife talked me into buying a couple of Koi last year from a street vendor. I choose really cool looking ones, and I liked them, but they are far too dirty for an aquarium, plus I think they murdered my Blue Whales. So I wanted them gone, but I was very careful to make sure they got a good home. I could have given them to my nephew, but he is only 8 years old....so I gave them to a coworker who has a 1000 gal Koi pond in his backyard.

Picklee 02-23-2007 01:22 PM

Heh, well yes Koi need a lot more space. I've been trying to refer to just small goldfish, but yes Koi are also a lot of work. That's nice that they found a new home. :D

Rue 02-23-2007 02:14 PM

Goldfish are my all-time favourite fish...unfortunately our house gets too hot for them in the summer...so I've had to stop...

My 'rule of thumb' with the fancies is 10 g for one fish...and that you can go a wee bit less per fish after that...so my 25 g tank housed 3 comfortably...

I've now got the large survivor downstairs in the basement rec room in a 10 g tank...he's been there for about 3 years or longer (loosing track of time)...a few months ago I got him a friend...and they're both doing well since it's nice and cool and water temp. is stable...but I can see that the tank will soon be too small...

So, eventually they're getting the old 25 g back...and I might add a 3rd goldfish again (miss having a black moor)...

And the dojo I added last week is doing just fine! The only thing is that I need to get him a little cave of some sort...

One other note...the goldfish is obviously 'happier' with the introduction of his 'friend'...he's swimming more and doesn't swim upside down as much :shock: . I thought he had a swim bladder issue that wasn't resolving...but it wasn't getting worse...not sure why a buddy has improved his condition...

...heh...sorry for being anthropomorphic... :wink:

scottysgirl 02-23-2007 03:10 PM

I thought all goldfish had the potential to get rather large, is this not true?
Thanks

Rue 02-23-2007 03:28 PM

The fancys will grow to ~8"...

...the comets, koi and similar types can get much larger...~12"...

musho3210 02-23-2007 04:01 PM

koi's get to two feet if housed properly

lioness501 02-23-2007 05:11 PM

so i have been informed recently......... a fish excretes a chemical around it,which itself is like a growth hormone, the more room it has the more it will excrete. wen it starts to run out of space, the chemicals will b reduced and the fish will grow slower, eventually, once the fish really has no space to grow at all, the release of chemical becomes so small that the fish is therefore stunted, and will grow no larger, but this in itself is not healthy for the fish. all fish should have enuff space to max out in size, for health and happiness!!! correct me if am totally wrong on this, but i was informed by a pet store guy who has had fish for 20+ years :):):):)


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