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RadMax8 02-14-2014 07:23 PM

Ghost Shrimp Clouding Up
 
Hey everyone,

I've got a few Ghost Shrimp cleaning my tank. They have been in there for about 6 weeks and they do a great job! Unfortunately, this week I noticed that some of them started looking cloudy instead of transparent. One has died, but I haven't been able to correlate it to the cloudiness. There was a shell from a molted shrimp. The only thing that's changed in the last week has been Seachem Flourish liquid fertilizer that I added. I've been using this product weekly for about a month now. Could this be the issue, or is it coincidence? What causes cloudiness in Ghost Shrimp?

Thanks in advance for the help!

sandybottom 02-15-2014 01:22 PM

if your params are good,ammo-o,nitrite-0,and nitrate 20 or lower. i would not worry too much. this is what they look like before they molt.

Sylverclaws 02-20-2014 05:03 AM

I've hear fertilizers, especially the liquid types(and root tabs can be iffy), can hurt them when they molt, and even before. They're extra delicate when they shed, both to toxins and attacks, even from other shrimp...do you have thick hiding areas for them to stay safe in after molting?

Do you give them any foods with protein in them? This can also hurt them during molting if they have too much protein foods in their diets.

Are your water parameters proper and stable? Stable is key for them especially, but toxins can and will cause them harm.

RadMax8 02-23-2014 10:50 AM

Ok so an update: I lost four of the seven shrimp. The other three seem to be doing alright. The liquid fertilizer may have played a part, I only saw one exoskeleton floating around, but that doesn't mean any others weren't eaten.

As far as diet, I have switched over to New Life Spectrum food, and everyone in my tank goes bananas for it, including the shrimp. Should I supplement the diet with something that might assist in shell formation? I know snails need calcium, but I'm not too sure about shrimp.

My tank is pretty stable with a pH around 7.8. I know this is pretty basic for the fish I like to keep, but they seem to have adapted ok. Is this too basic for shrimp?

Thanks for the help!

sandybottom 02-23-2014 11:55 AM

shrimp need calcium for exoskeleton formation.if your water has a decent gh,you should be ok.otherwise you will need a supplement.gh is how much calcium and manganese is in your water.general hardness.

Sylverclaws 02-23-2014 01:09 PM

If it's a calcium problem, you can give them some blanched spinach a couple times per week. Good for your vegetarian and omnivorous fish too.

sandybottom 02-23-2014 01:49 PM

kale would be a better choice.it has 4x the amount of calcium per cup.too much spinach is bad for kidney function. collard greens beat both of these out at 10x more calcium than spinach.so either of these would be superior.

Sylverclaws 02-23-2014 02:19 PM

I thought it was too much calcium that caused fried kidneys, not the spinach itself? o-o That's why I said only a couple times per week or so, like twice max, maybe once. lol But hey, if the other stuff works better and doesn't have the risk of frying kidneys, go for it!

RadMax8 02-23-2014 03:22 PM

Thanks for the responses. I don't have a GH & KH test kit, but my tank does get some white deposits which I always assumed were calcium. I'll get some kale at the store and see if the shrimp try to eat it. There's another one who's looking pretty cloudy so we will see if I can bring him back.

Thanks again for the advice!

sandybottom 02-23-2014 03:27 PM

raw spinach is high in oxalate which binds to calcium, hindering the bodys intake of calcium.the body then takes calcium from bones,exoskeletons etc. to correct this.in humans when the oxalate binds to calcium in high amounts it produces kidney stones.


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