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rookie 12-16-2009 08:57 PM

55 gallon
 
hello, im new to the forum. i have quite a few questions. right now i currently have a 10 gallon reef tank. i am upgrading to a 55 gallon. i am going to make it a fowlr tank. could anyone help me with the filteration, what type of salt would be best, how many power heads would be suffeceint, just pretty much all the basics. i am very fimilar with the live rock, live sand, fish everything like that. i am just curious on what kind of equipment i would need. thank you for all the help!

aunt kymmie 12-16-2009 10:35 PM

Welcome to the forum, Rookie. Glad to have you on board. I wanted to say hi. :-)
I'll let the pros answer your questions on equipment!

mrdemin 12-17-2009 12:13 AM

Welcome to the forum! While I cannot really suggest any equipment there are plenty here that can. You should check out some of the user written articles on the forum relating to saltwater tanks, I've been reading them, getting a little aquainted with saltwater setups and must say they are very informative.

onefish2fish 12-17-2009 01:58 AM

a sump with a skimmer. http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/m...g-sumps-15930/

atleast 2 hydor k #2 powerheads, if not #3s. salt brands are a personal preference.

55 gallon tanks are narrow and are alittle more tricky to place your live rock then in a wider tank. standard 75 gallon tanks are the same lenght but alittle wider then a 55. im not saying you cant use the 55 gallon as your tank, the extra width of the 75 makes aquascaping your rocks easier. can you post a stocking list of what you wish to keep?

rookie 12-17-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by onefish2fish (Post 290910)
a sump with a skimmer. http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/m...g-sumps-15930/

atleast 2 hydor k #2 powerheads, if not #3s. salt brands are a personal preference.

55 gallon tanks are narrow and are alittle more tricky to place your live rock then in a wider tank. standard 75 gallon tanks are the same lenght but alittle wider then a 55. im not saying you cant use the 55 gallon as your tank, the extra width of the 75 makes aquascaping your rocks easier. can you post a stocking list of what you wish to keep?

i have not purchased the tank yet so i am highly considering the 75 now. would this size tank need a sump for sure or could i just get a good quality hang on skimmer? what about a 100 gallon? how hard are these to keep compared to a 55 or a 75 gallon? it will be a fish only with live rock so i am not really planning on any corals and as of the fish im not sure. it will just be a decision in the future. it will probably be more little fish and shrimp and such.

rookie 12-17-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefish2fish (Post 290910)
a sump with a skimmer. http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/m...g-sumps-15930/

atleast 2 hydor k #2 powerheads, if not #3s. salt brands are a personal preference.

55 gallon tanks are narrow and are alittle more tricky to place your live rock then in a wider tank. standard 75 gallon tanks are the same lenght but alittle wider then a 55. im not saying you cant use the 55 gallon as your tank, the extra width of the 75 makes aquascaping your rocks easier. can you post a stocking list of what you wish to keep?

i have been doing a lot of research and a lot of thinking.. i need help from anyone please. would it be better for me to get a 55 gallon tank+ all the things to go with it or should i just get a 29 gallon biocube?

Pasfur 12-17-2009 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rookie (Post 291089)
what about a 100 gallon? how hard are these to keep compared to a 55 or a 75 gallon? it will be a fish only with live rock so i am not really planning on any corals and as of the fish im not sure..

There is no debate at all on this. The 100 gallon would be MUCH easier to care for. And your fish selections would open up to some more popular fish. For example, you would never put a Tang in a 55, but in a 100 you have these options. I would suggest measuring your floor space and purchasing the largest aquarium your wallet can handle, because care gets easier and less time consuming as the tanks get bigger. (within reason of course)

For any of these size tanks, I would highly suggest an overflow with a sump. A pre drilled overflow is easiest. Your sump will house a protein skimmer, and give you a place for additional equipment, such as the heater, activated carbon, and a UV Sterilizer if you like. ( I recommend this.)

The price on the skimmer will go up a bit as the tank gets larger, but not a lot. An extra $100 or so can really be the difference in a 55 gallon vs. 125 gallon skimmer. The same can be said for the return pump, which won't really by much more costly.

The biggest cost difference is in the tank, live rock, and lighting. Lighting won't be much of an issue for a FOWLR tank. You can save a ton of cost on live rock by using 75% dry rock from Marco Rocks The finest aquarium rock available, base rock, live rock, reef rock, marco rock, reef tank saltwater fish, live corals, Marco rocks, Fiji live rock, Tonga Live rock. This is what I used in my 180. http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/s...f-build-21979/

rookie 12-17-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasfur (Post 291239)
There is no debate at all on this. The 100 gallon would be MUCH easier to care for. And your fish selections would open up to some more popular fish. For example, you would never put a Tang in a 55, but in a 100 you have these options. I would suggest measuring your floor space and purchasing the largest aquarium your wallet can handle, because care gets easier and less time consuming as the tanks get bigger. (within reason of course)

For any of these size tanks, I would highly suggest an overflow with a sump. A pre drilled overflow is easiest. Your sump will house a protein skimmer, and give you a place for additional equipment, such as the heater, activated carbon, and a UV Sterilizer if you like. ( I recommend this.)

The price on the skimmer will go up a bit as the tank gets larger, but not a lot. An extra $100 or so can really be the difference in a 55 gallon vs. 125 gallon skimmer. The same can be said for the return pump, which won't really by much more costly.

The biggest cost difference is in the tank, live rock, and lighting. Lighting won't be much of an issue for a FOWLR tank. You can save a ton of cost on live rock by using 75% dry rock from Marco Rocks The finest aquarium rock available, base rock, live rock, reef rock, marco rock, reef tank saltwater fish, live corals, Marco rocks, Fiji live rock, Tonga Live rock. This is what I used in my 180. http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/s...f-build-21979/

thank you for all the information! one of the things i was worrying about in the 100 gallon tank was defiantly the expense of the live rock. i am just curious, i have a wet/dry filter right now i used a while back on a 55 gallon. i do not like it what so ever. could i take the bio balls out along with all the filter pads and just add the sand bed in the first chamber and live rock in the second to create a sump? of course i would have the over flow box and the powerhead going back to the tank.

Pasfur 12-18-2009 06:12 AM

You can use the old wet dry to create a sump, but I would not use it as described. I would empty the bio balls and filter pads, then modify the unit to contain a protein skimmer, and possibly a refugium. Can you post pictures of this sump and the dimension of each section? Then we can get very specific.

rookie 12-19-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasfur (Post 291335)
You can use the old wet dry to create a sump, but I would not use it as described. I would empty the bio balls and filter pads, then modify the unit to contain a protein skimmer, and possibly a refugium. Can you post pictures of this sump and the dimension of each section? Then we can get very specific.

Coralife Super Skimmer Needle Wheel
is this okay for a 75 gallon?


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