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Angel079 11-25-2009 09:06 AM

Ick Issue Take 2
 
After trying to hijack MoneyMitch thread, I figured it may be better to start my own...

So I seen white spotted Cardinals when I got home, immediately dialed up Temp and did a good size w/c.

Dialed up Temp some more after dinner and went to town to get the ONLY product I found called 'QuIck Cure" does acc to the package (well actually a little less rather then killing my Cardinals) and in the AM I will dial up heat more.

Anyone any suggestions what else I can do to safe the 4 left (1 passed away over dinner from the 5)???

What are chances with ick really, I mean will they just all die on me now (sorry but I'm totally NEW to having sick fish at home, never had this problem before)?

This AM: Dialed up Temp more, Added Air stone as suggested (adjuested to give off a good handful of bubbles but not running on full speed - OK?)

Now the label say's daily, max treatment 3x day....Now what do I do just add the stuff once a day or 2, 3 times???
The only thing it say's as active ingredient is 'Formalin & Malachite Green' - Will this be safe with my plants cause I'd hate to loose my fish AND plants??

Kelso 11-25-2009 09:27 AM

Alright, Keep the temp around 85. Thats where I'm at and its working. My puffer is recovering very nicely. Try this organic thing...I didn't believe it would work, but it has, called Ich Attack if you can find it anywhere. Try any store that carried fish supplies, even wal mart. Just use a capful per ten gallons of that stuff. Do your water changes, vacuum the gravel heavily! If your filter can can reach a higher speed, do that, as opposed to the airstone.

Dont forget to remove the carbon!

Angel079 11-25-2009 09:58 AM

I have no carbon in non my filters (planted tanks here).
As I said the ONLY think I found here was called QuIck Cure and I really wanna help my guys but I will not drive all the way to GA to maybe find another Medicine there now.

Filter is Eheim 2213 running full speed - So remove or leave airstone??

As I done w/c yesterday I'd not do one till next week now...do them daily now or what, I am confused a lil?

Kelso 11-25-2009 11:36 AM

A little off topic, but Ive never had a problem with my plants while keeping carbon in.

Well keep up with the ick treatment you have unless youre willing to shell out money for a next day air order online. Well an air stone may be overkill because of your plants, your creating a greater exchange of oxygen, you dont wanna harm the plants either. Use your best judgement to determine with your getting enough disturbance at the surface from your filter alone. Your filter is over all better than mine, so chance are youre keeping it oxygenated enough.

When I was under full ich breakout, I conducted a water change about every three days. I did approximately 30%. 2 things: Make sure you do the pwc before you dose the tank for the day and make sure your heater gets plugged back in when youre all done! Mine fell out and my puffer was covered in ich worse than ever because the temp went to 71 F last week.

Angel079 11-25-2009 01:16 PM

I adjusted the outlet for the Eheim so it'll disturb the surface more then I usually would set it up.
Airstone off.

That stuff say's to treat UP TO 3x daily max...I'm still not sure if I should only do once or twice or even 3 time a day, Cardinal are touchy after all....???

God I hope I can get the fish through this!

Kelso 11-25-2009 01:28 PM

three times a day seems like a lot, and unnecessary too. To me it just sounds like a way to use more so you have to buy more. I would dose the proper amount for the tank once a day.

Twistersmom 11-25-2009 01:41 PM

I have used quick cure before, with good results. Its been a few years though. If I remember correctly, I only used it once a day at half dose and did a pwc every 3 days.
This stuff will not rid your tank of ick in three days, as it claims. Use it for at least a full week after all visual signs are gone.
What temp is the tank now? I have never gone over 82 deg, when using ick meds. Both meds and heat depreciate oxygen levels.
Having plants, makes it more difficult. I have not used Quick Cure in a planted tank. I am sure, they will not enjoy the meds or extra air, don't know if it will be enough to kill them. Byron might have some good advice in regards to your plants.

Kelso 11-25-2009 02:00 PM

Oh yeah! If plants are a major concern, a bucket will do just fine for more fragile plants. If you dont have any other fish that are sensitive, I think youre cardinals will do fine with the high temp.

Angel079 11-25-2009 03:55 PM

I guess from what y'all are saying I do have a fair chance they will survive this huh?

Yea that would be VERY much not cool if I killed all my plants in the go, but a bucket for my plants won't do, more like 2-3 buckets. And pulling them up & in the other tank is no option considering I don't wanna get the other fish sick too.
I'll wait & see if maybe Byron has and idea here for me for the plants.

Twistersmom 11-25-2009 04:10 PM

Do you have a QT tank you can move the fish into for treatment? Yes, I do not think curing the fish will be a problem, but I will not pretend to be the plant expert Byron is.
If you are able to move the fish, the ick in the planted tank "should" die off, without fish. Don't quote me on that though. Maybe someone else will chime in.


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