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Romney 01-06-2014 05:29 AM

Starter fish
 
I bought my 65 ltr tank 3 weeks before Christmas intending to run it with filter aid and fresh start to cycle it, I thought I had done my research, WRONG, when I went to purchase my fish (from pets at home) on Thursday, the guy cheerfully bagged up 4 small Danio's and then told me I would probably lose most if not all of them to new tank syndrome :cry: he said once they had all died in a couple of weeks I could then get more fish as the tank would most probably be cycled by then............I don't want to lose any, I have got very attached to them and their individual little ways, I did a 20% water change (replacing the water from another smaller empty tank that had been running at the same temp and had the water treated) and I intend to do the same again today, my fish seem very active, healthy and happy, they play for hours in the wave maker and bubble curtain and I would really like them to stay that way, is there anything I can do to save them? I don't have a water testing kit (the ph and nitrates and stuff have me completely lost, i'm blond :roll: ) but I do have testing strips which I don't understand either, sorry for the long post but any help would be much appreciated.

rickey 01-06-2014 06:24 AM

Get ready for a bumpy ride, This is the point were most beginner fail in the hobby. They become frustrated and give up, it takes a great deal of patience to make it thru the first 6 weeks. There are people who will guide you thru the cycling process (better suited than I)

R

Romney 01-06-2014 07:17 AM

Thank you for your reply..........bumpy ride here I come :-? is there anywhere on this forum that can tell me? I'm finding it hard navigating and I feel I might have missed a topic telling me what I need to know.

rickey 01-06-2014 08:03 AM

Cavalry is coming, I PMed a friend

http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...-cycle-213418/

R

beaslbob 01-06-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Romney (Post 3690930)
I bought my 65 ltr tank 3 weeks before Christmas intending to run it with filter aid and fresh start to cycle it, I thought I had done my research, WRONG, when I went to purchase my fish (from pets at home) on Thursday, the guy cheerfully bagged up 4 small Danio's and then told me I would probably lose most if not all of them to new tank syndrome :cry: he said once they had all died in a couple of weeks I could then get more fish as the tank would most probably be cycled by then............I don't want to lose any, I have got very attached to them and their individual little ways, I did a 20% water change (replacing the water from another smaller empty tank that had been running at the same temp and had the water treated) and I intend to do the same again today, my fish seem very active, healthy and happy, they play for hours in the wave maker and bubble curtain and I would really like them to stay that way, is there anything I can do to save them? I don't have a water testing kit (the ph and nitrates and stuff have me completely lost, i'm blond :roll: ) but I do have testing strips which I don't understand either, sorry for the long post but any help would be much appreciated.


here's what you can do.

Add lots of fast growing plants like anacharis.

Don't do any water changes

and don't add food for two weeks.

My .02

Romney 01-06-2014 12:37 PM

TWO WEEKS? :shock: Won't the danio's starve to death? When I got them on Thursday they guy in the shop told me not to feed them until Saturday, I nearly caved in Friday night, but I managed to restrain myself and waited till Saturday morning, I only gave them a little pinch of flaked food and they went nuts, I was told rule of thumb only to feed what could be eaten in 2 minutes........... it took them 2 seconds.

beaslbob 01-06-2014 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Romney (Post 3692922)
TWO WEEKS? :shock: Won't the danio's starve to death? When I got them on Thursday they guy in the shop told me not to feed them until Saturday, I nearly caved in Friday night, but I managed to restrain myself and waited till Saturday morning, I only gave them a little pinch of flaked food and they went nuts, I was told rule of thumb only to feed what could be eaten in 2 minutes........... it took them 2 seconds.

fish can go for three weeks or more with no food.

I used to feed my first fish on new tanks and just like clockwork it slowed down on the thrid day, was lying almost motionless and breathing heavy on the forth day, and was dead on the fifth day.

So one time I just took the attitude why add food? and to my surpise it was active and lived the first week. So now I don't add food the first week then add a female the second and start feeding a single flake per day.

If you don't have anacharis (or other fast growing live plants) I would add some.


Best tank ever.

and still just my .02

rickey 01-07-2014 08:13 AM

Step by step nitrogen cycle

A beginner's guide

Maybe this will help, Bob is just going to confuse you with a more advanced method.

R

Romney 01-07-2014 02:56 PM

Thank you, I read this yesterday (all of it :roll:) i'm doing a 20% water change every other day until my test kit arrives (bought it off the internet) there's not much more I can really do until it comes except cross my fingers and hope............

Hallyx 01-08-2014 03:06 AM

Yes there is. Dose Prime water conditioner by Seachem, 2-drops/gal of tank size with every water change. Increase you water changes to 33% every day. Put the Prime in the refill water. This is a little conservative, but you don't have a test kit, so it's safer.

You can feed the fish daily, sparingly; they'll put out less ammonia. A better rule-of-thumb is to feed them as much food as the size of their eye. What are you feeding them?

If you see them acting lethargic, hanging out near the surface all the time or gasping for air, do an immediate 50% water change with Prime.

As soon as you get your test kit, we'll show you how to determine your water change schedule and get your tank cycled.

Plants are great, but require specific lighting and some skill and knowledge to grow effectively and to be of benefit to your tank.

The Step-by-step nitrogen cycle is good background information. Focus on the fish-in cycling section. You're doing a version of that. The Beginner's Guide is a more detailed explication..


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