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brettxw 11-14-2009 12:52 AM

Do I just have bad luck? Brother got me african butterfly fish, dead with in minutes!
 
Seriously! My brother got me two little frogs for the aquarium and an african butterfly fish. I thought it was a friggen awesome fish. Looked like it was swimming upside down ha. Well, not even joking, with in 10 minutes of being in the aquarium, it was dead. I read up on them about pH level and my aquarium level was in the range. Temperature was around 74 degrees though and the info says they prefer high 70's for temp. I can't see that being the reason it died?

ONLY thing I can think of is I let the bag/water he came in from the petstore sit in the tank for only like 5 minutes, then released him. I know and usually wait about 20 minutes then do it. Would that have done it??

Twistersmom 11-14-2009 09:04 AM

Can you post your test results for ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates? What size tank?

It is very possible that the fish was sick to begin with. I know, most stores say the 15 minute float is all you need to do. This is not the best way to introduce new fish.

If store water is much different then your own, throwing them in completely different water can be very stressful, some can even go into shock and possible die as a result.
For best results, you should acclimate new fish to your own water slowly. This can be done in two different ways.

1) You can either place the bag with fish inside your tank, or place the fish and water in a bucket. Every 15 minutes, add some of your tank water. A quarter of a cup or less. The slower the better. Keep adding your tank water, until more than 75% of the water, is you own tank water. Then you can add the fish to your tank. Throw the mixed water out. You never want to place store water into your own tank.
The water may be cooler in the bucket, once the acclimation is complete, but temperature changes are less stressful than ph changes, so not a real problem.

2) Put the fish and water in a bucket. Use a long airline. One side of the air line in the tank, the other end in the bucket. You will probably need a knot in the airline, to keep the water from flowing through to fast. Let the water from the tank drip into the bucket, until more than 75% is your own water.

brettxw 11-14-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistersmom (Post 273832)
Can you post your test results for ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates? What size tank?

It is very possible that the fish was sick to begin with. I know, most stores say the 15 minute float is all you need to do. This is not the best way to introduce new fish.

If store water is much different then your own, throwing them in completely different water can be very stressful, some can even go into shock and possible die as a result.
For best results, you should acclimate new fish to your own water slowly. This can be done in two different ways.

1) You can either place the bag with fish inside your tank, or place the fish and water in a bucket. Every 15 minutes, add some of your tank water. A quarter of a cup or less. The slower the better. Keep adding your tank water, until more than 75% of the water, is you own tank water. Then you can add the fish to your tank. Throw the mixed water out. You never want to place store water into your own tank.
The water may be cooler in the bucket, once the acclimation is complete, but temperature changes are less stressful than ph changes, so not a real problem.

2) Put the fish and water in a bucket. Use a long airline. One side of the air line in the tank, the other end in the bucket. You will probably need a knot in the airline, to keep the water from flowing through to fast. Let the water from the tank drip into the bucket, until more than 75% is your own water.

Uh oh. I've always had the bag sit inside the tank for about 10 minutes then cut the bag and empty it out. ohhhhh. I am so glad you mentioned that!

mrdemin 11-14-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brettxw (Post 274014)
Uh oh. I've always had the bag sit inside the tank for about 10 minutes then cut the bag and empty it out. ohhhhh. I am so glad you mentioned that!

Never put store water into your own tank!:-?

molliefan09 11-14-2009 03:02 PM

can you give us your tank readings for ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate???/

brettxw 11-14-2009 05:05 PM

I will do the tests now and post them up.


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