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Jill977 02-08-2007 10:43 PM

Please help identify fish
 
Here are the pictures of my fish. Please help me figure out what kind of chichlids and algae eaters they are.
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...w_and_blue.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...l_977/blue.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2...lgae_eater.jpg

I need to know if this algae eater will be ok living with the chichlids. The pet store said that they would but someone earlier said that certain ones didn't do well with chichlids. Thanks for all of your help!! :D

musho3210 02-08-2007 10:45 PM

common plecostomus and some african chichlids. Both bad beginner fish, i would suggest you returning all of them and getting a different take scheme

EDIT the pleco might be a brittle nose.

What are your water params? african chichlids like a ph of 7.6-8.4

Lupin 02-08-2007 10:48 PM

Not sure about the blue one but looks like Pseudotropheus kenyi to me. The yellow one is a Yellow Lab. Yellow labs have a rather mellow attitude.:)

Your 'algae eater' is a common plec. Not exactly excellent at consuming algae. They will grow to 16 inches.:)

Jill977 02-08-2007 11:53 PM

It is too late for me to return them. I am dedicated to making this work that is why I am here. So are they africian cichlids? My Ph level is around 7.2. I have PH up and a buffer up. Do I need to use these? I have read in some other post that it isn't good to use and that alternative methods might be better. What are some of these? How can I keep it at a stable PH? My nitrite level is between 5.0 and 10.0 (closer to 5.0) which I know is way too high. the nitrates are 20. So it is my understanding that I should do a 10-25% water change daily until the nitrites are down. Is this correct? Do I need to add the bacteria with each change also? Thanks for all your help!

Lupin 02-09-2007 12:00 AM

Both are African cichlids. Don't use pH up. Such chemicals can cause pH swings killing your fish. Consider using buffers or calcerous rocks instead. You'll need to know your KH(carbonate hardness) and GH(general hardness). I'd just add established filter media from your lfs instead of those 'bacteria' stuff. Yes, a daily water change of 10% should help.:)

Jill977 02-09-2007 12:19 AM

What is an established filter media? My Gh is 120 and th KH is 120 also. Can I buy the rocks you stated at the lfs as well? Are they something that will stabalize the ph for good or is it something I will have to keep adding? Someone also mentioned that I should add salt....is this something I should do? Sorry I keep asking so many questions. I just don't want to lose my fish!!

Lupin 02-09-2007 05:08 AM

Established filter media are the ones that have been colonized by bacteria. They help speed up cycling of your tank. Your GH and KH appear to be soft but is just enough to prevent any possible pH crash.
Have a read with this link.
Anything lower than 4 dH will result to pH crash.

Your lfs should have those rocks. Limestones are one of those. If not, just use crushed oyster shells and place them in your filter.

Do not add salt in your tank. They are totally unnecessary. What kind of salt is it anyway?


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