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Reynold 10-17-2009 12:28 PM

Gold Fish has swim bladder/constipation (Tried peas)
 
One of my goldfish has been laying on the bottom of the tank for several days, breathing slowly. Recently his condition has been constantly going up and down, and it seems like he has swim bladder/is constipated/both.

We've already tried:
Peas
Salt
Soaking his food
And tetracycline
Changing the water

Tetracycline worked at first, but when we stopped using it, he sank to the bottom soon after, and when we tried it again, it didn't work.

Details:

The fish is around 3 and a half years old.

He has been prone to swim bladder/constipation in past.

He is a fancy goldfish.

Ammonia is fine, nitrates are fine, ph is fine, water quality is perfect, tank is 20 gallons and there is one other fish in it (who is 4 inches).

We use flake food.

Please help, thanks!

Twistersmom 10-17-2009 02:07 PM

Hello and welcome to the forum!

Sorry to hear your fish is struggling with swim bladder problems. I have a goldfish that also suffers from it. Mine has lived over a year with the problem, with a decent life.
I don't know of a cure for swim bladder problems, but with mine, feeding less and a daily pea, has really helped.

Lupin 10-17-2009 09:55 PM

I would stop using flakes. Flakes are utter rubbish IMO. Aside from the fact that flakes expand as quickly as they are swallowed by the fish, they also add up air when the fish ingests them. Vitamins that are said to be confined in the flakes may leach out thus flakes become useless especially with no vitamins involved since vitamins are water soluble. Presoaking flakes will not help as much as presoaking pellets do. I also use sinking pellets particularly from Hikari and then gel foods, whether homemade or by Mazuri, since the floating ones make my goldies go floaty.

How long has this issue been ongoing? If he has been bottom sitting for awhile now, a sling may help him. See this thread on how slings are done.
Time for a sling?

For buoyancy issues, read this one.
Buoyancy Issues in Fancy Goldfish | Illness and Treatment

aunt kymmie 10-17-2009 10:06 PM

Lupes, that article talks about surgically inserting a stone to aid in alleviating bouyancy issues. I know you have successfully removed tumors. Would you ever consider doing this type of procedure yourself? I only ask out of curiousity. What would a fish surgeon charge for this type of procedure? You know I always find this type of info interesting. Reynold, good luck with the recuperation of your fish.

Twistersmom 10-17-2009 10:10 PM

Great bouyancy link Lupin!

My goldfish is a floater, but has learned to nest under plant to stay under water while sleeping. I truly believe high nitrates have an effect. I have nitrates in my tap, so keeping low nitrates in a tank, can be difficult. I have noticed my goldfish doing much better, since adding plants and trying to fit in a couple water changes a week, to keep nitrates low.

Lupin 10-18-2009 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aunt kymmie (Post 259247)
Lupes, that article talks about surgically inserting a stone to aid in alleviating bouyancy issues. I know you have successfully removed tumors. Would you ever consider doing this type of procedure yourself? I only ask out of curiousity. What would a fish surgeon charge for this type of procedure? You know I always find this type of info interesting. Reynold, good luck with the recuperation of your fish.

I have limited experience on surgeries, Kym. That was only the tumor removal. Stone insertion is going to be a challenge to do. I'd need X-rays to carefully lodge it in which is what I am lacking.:-?

A gimpy fish can still live for a long time despite buoyancy issues. There are many ways they can do to help prevent themselves from getting stuck to the surface all the time like Twistermom's goldfish. There are some glass vases that cater to it such as this one.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...500_AA280_.jpg


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