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lilbabyvenus 10-24-2013 11:13 AM

Serious Ammonia Spike
 
I have a 55 gallon which has had a 0 ammonia reading for over a week now after getting a mini cycle from adding a canister filter. I added a tiny albino bristlenose pleco (about 1.5") and a piece of driftwood. Tuesday I had a fish die out of nowhere. I did a water change and tested the water and I had a slight jump in ammonia to .25, which I assumed the water change would take care of. I tested the water yesterday a few hours after adding Flourish comprehensive and my ammonia was at 4! :shock: I started freaking out and immediately did a 70% water change and dosed an extra tiny bit of Prime to help neutralize any leftover ammonia. I tested the water again this morning and it's back at 4! I just did another 70% water change and now I'm just at a loss. All my other fish are acting normal. The only changes are the addition of this tiny pleco and the driftwood. The driftwood has been slowly lowering my ph, which I thought would be a good thing, but maybe it's killing my bacteria? I just honestly don't know what to do. I'm at my whits end with all the issues I've had with this tank. I cannot for the life of me figure out this ammonia. I've never had it like this. I have a planted tank with 12 plants planted and 5 floating. I use Prime for a conditioner. I use the API master liquid kit to test the water. There is no ammonia in my tap water. I've cleaned my canister. I've been vacuuming my sand every day. Any thoughts?

I've also got an ammonia alert tag for inside the tank coming today to help me determine if the ammonia is free or not.

Boredomb 10-24-2013 11:46 AM

WoW 4 ppm of ammonia is high!

What do you have in your tank decor wise? How old is your test kit?

lilbabyvenus 10-24-2013 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Boredomb (Post 3274729)
WoW 4 ppm of ammonia is high!

What do you have in your tank decor wise? How old is your test kit?

I have a fake rock cave and a Colosseum with a bubbler from petsmart and a sunken ship from walmart. Other than that I just have a the driftwood and plants. I just got this test kit in August. I'm not sure if there's a date of manufacture or anything on it.

Boredomb 10-24-2013 12:34 PM

Ok this tank is cycled right? If soo then if the ammonia isn't coming from the tap water it has to be coming from something entering the tank or something that is already there. If the tank is cycled it should be able to handle the ammonia from the fish especially with live plants. So with that thinking I am sure you don't add anything to the tank that has ammonia in it. So the only other thing I would think about is the decor you have in there. Not the driftwood unless its fake. If it was me I would be doing some process of elimination here. I would personally take out one of the decor first do a water change and wait to see if it raise or not. If it does then take the other one out and do the same thing. Make sure nothing is entering from the outside of the tank too. This is just my thoughts here and it maybe not be either things. But I would want to make sure it was me.

Agent13 10-24-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lilbabyvenus (Post 3274625)
. I've cleaned my canister. .

How and when did you clean your canister?

lilbabyvenus 10-24-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent13 (Post 3274921)
How and when did you clean your canister?

Yesterday. I turn it off, disconnect the hoses. remove the lid and baskets, "shake" the filter pads off in the canister water and then replace the water in the canister with water from the tank, replace the baskets and hook everything back up.

lilbabyvenus 10-24-2013 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Boredomb (Post 3274905)
Ok this tank is cycled right? If soo then if the ammonia isn't coming from the tap water it has to be coming from something entering the tank or something that is already there. If the tank is cycled it should be able to handle the ammonia from the fish especially with live plants. So with that thinking I am sure you don't add anything to the tank that has ammonia in it. So the only other thing I would think about is the decor you have in there. Not the driftwood unless its fake. If it was me I would be doing some process of elimination here. I would personally take out one of the decor first do a water change and wait to see if it raise or not. If it does then take the other one out and do the same thing. Make sure nothing is entering from the outside of the tank too. This is just my thoughts here and it maybe not be either things. But I would want to make sure it was me.

Yes, it's cycled. I was worried that the Flourish was upping some form of ammonia for the plants, but that must not be the case. This is something that I just started adding. The driftwood is not fake. I'm a little confused though why solid structures would give off ammonia. I didn't try taking anything out because I just didn't know that was possible.

Boredomb 10-24-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lilbabyvenus (Post 3275009)
Yes, it's cycled. I was worried that the Flourish was upping some form of ammonia for the plants, but that must not be the case. This is something that I just started adding. The driftwood is not fake. I'm a little confused though why solid structures would give off ammonia. I didn't try taking anything out because I just didn't know that was possible.

I know i have read were some plastic decor has give ppl problems in the past. It may not be the case here. But I would want to know for sure if it was me. Not saying you have too cause thats alot of work. It just could be a possibility.

FLourish doesn't have ammonia in it that I know of would have to check the indigents again.

Agent13 10-24-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lilbabyvenus (Post 3275009)
Yes, it's cycled. I was worried that the Flourish was upping some form of ammonia for the plants, but that must not be the case. This is something that I just started adding. The driftwood is not fake. I'm a little confused though why solid structures would give off ammonia. I didn't try taking anything out because I just didn't know that was possible.

I'm doubting the driftwood being the issue ..or the new fish.
Hmmm, What fish died? How long do you think it was dead?
I'd perhaps also buy a new liquid ammonia test, just the individual one. I know you're getting the alert tag but it's not as accurate as the kit as I'm sure you know. Quite a mystery you have here.


Do you have snails by any chance? Ones that hitch hiked in, or ones you put in there yourself?

lilbabyvenus 10-24-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Boredomb (Post 3275025)
I know i have read were some plastic decor has give ppl problems in the past. It may not be the case here. But I would want to know for sure if it was me. Not saying you have too cause thats alot of work. It just could be a possibility.

FLourish doesn't have ammonia in it that I know of would have to check the indigents again.

Hmm. I didn't know that! I took out the ship for now. I'll take out the rock cave as soon as I can track something down for my gourami to hide in as a replacement. The Colloseum will be the hard part though. It's just big, and has tubing attachments with suction cups and... ick. lol.

Flourish doesn't have ammonia, I checked. I just didn't know if there was something in it that would convert to some for of ammonia for the plants but not harm the fish? I don't know lol, I just had wondered since that was the only new thing I was adding to the tank.

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Originally Posted by Agent13 (Post 3275033)
I'm doubting the driftwood being the issue ..or the new fish.
Hmmm, What fish died? How long do you think it was dead?
I'd perhaps also buy a new liquid ammonia test, just the individual one. I know you're getting the alert tag but it's not as accurate as the kit as I'm sure you know. Quite a mystery you have here.


Do you have snails by any chance? Ones that hitch hiked in, or ones you put in there yourself?

A bolivian ram had died, but he didn't die in the tank. My son noticed he was swimming on his side on the bottom of the tank. I got him out before he died.

ETA: No snails.


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