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Cycling an Aquarium
For those of you who are new to the whole Aquaria hobby, and are wondering about the cycling process post here. I have seen many a thread about this and people--such as Byron and Trevor--have been saying the same things over and over. Giving the same advice. To me it seems like a waste of time and forum space to be having to say these things hundreds of times. Here is a brief overview on the "Cycling process."
Nitrogen cycleNow I hope gives a little more insight to those who have already started their aquarium's or plan to do so in the near future. The nitrogen cycle is very important to a healthy and happy aquarium. There are different ways you can do this; with and without Fish. You can also use "chemicals" like "Cycle" or Seachem's "Stability" which will introduce the "good" bacteria into the aquarium and help to regulate the bad stuff in the tank. There are also value packs you can get which contain three things for the tank that can help plenty. It includes "Cycle," "AQUAplus Water Condisioner," and "WasteControl." This runs for about 14.98$ CAN + applicable taxes at walmart. Personally I find it is better to get this than get them individually. They are decent sized bottles and to get a larger bottle of just one is about 11$ plus taxes. So you're looking at about 35$ for all three. Anyway if anyone has any questions or concerns please feel free to raise them!
PS: I am really sorry if there is already a thread about this. I just figured it would be a good idea to post this seeing as how we have quite a few beginners with us now and they all seem to get worried with the cycling process. If it is there its probably not very accessible or easy to find for newbies. I sincerely apologize if there is already a thread! :(
Here are some photos: [sorry about the blur]
Thanx for the info.
Only issue I have is the `Waste Control`product. Don`t use it.
First, it causes ammonia to rise (it says it `may`on the label, but I can assure you it will because it breaks down organic matter and this produces ammonia). Second, an aquarium should be biologically balanced by the fish, plants and bacteria processes. Adding anything that interferes with these processes is at best going against what we strive for and at worst (and more likely) could cause a crash somewhere in the system, leading to more problems.
Fish and plants have evolved over millions of years to work with bacteria. The aquarium will be healthier and more stable biologically if that relationship is balanced and left alone.
Call me old fashioned, I do not recommend adding anything to aquariums except a full function water conditioner such as Prime. Bacterial supplements may or may not produce the desired results For they are not all the same. I do recommend seed material from disease free aquariums if it can be aquired in the way of filter material, and or gravel.
In my view,(and others) there are no cycle in a bottle products that will make an aquarium safe for fish(instantly.,or overnight). Some supplements may help encourage the process of maturing,establishing,or(cycling) but careful monitoring of water should be performed and fish should ALWAYS,,,, be added a few at a time rather than a dozen at a time. Opinions vary.
yeah the cycle stuff i use is an over time thing to help encourage the growth of bacteria i think. its not an over night dealy.
WOW! i just read the waste control thing and i must have been on drugs or half asleep when i read it every other time. it does say ammonia may peak. i thought it said it helps control ammonia. im def not using that stuff anymore.
Ammonia is what changes the water colour right? cuz my water seems to be a yellowishy colour
Ammonia won't colour the water. If there is new wood in the tank, it could be tannins; if that is it, it will dissipate in time. But if you did use that waste control stuff, that probably did it. It has some effect biologically by breaking down organics. And there might be some reaction between the various products, Cycle and Waste Control particularly. If any of the afore-mentioned is the cause, I would say it is harmless though unsightly.
uhm i do have wood in there but its been in an aquarium before. heck its been in this aquarium before. im not sure if its real though. its screwed to a rock base and has a fake plant on it *shrug*
i did use cycle and the waste control thinger cuz i did practically reestablish the tank not too long ago. is it bad to keep using cycle even after the cycle process? speaking of ugly water i need to do a 50% water change in a minute or two D: stupid high ammonia and nitrite >.<
I do know that others have used Seachem's "Stability" to cycle a new tank and it has worked the first day. But with few fish. Stability is live bacteria. Dr. Tim Hovanec developed the method of keeping nitrosomonas and nitrospira bacteria alive in a bottle for several months. His company sells such a product, and Bio-Spira is (so I'm told) much the same, as is Stability. I use Stability to be safe, though again with live plants it may be unnecessary.
as for live plants, would a Marimo Algae Ball do ANYTHING at all? i have one in my five gallon tank and was thinking wondering if it was even worth keeping in there because its so big. Its about the size of a tennis ball. If it will help my tank a little with my high ammonia and nitrite levels with my daily water changes then ill leave it in there. also! i was wondering about Nutrafin Freshwater Aquarium salt. it doesnt say how often to use it, and im sort of confused what exactly it does. it says to use one level tablespoon for every 5 gal of water, but it doesnt say how often to do it. I've been doing it with my water changes. lately theyve been big [50-60%] because my ammonia and nitrite are high. nitrite was 2 [ick] when i checked two days ago and my ammonia i dunno i think he used the wrong card to compare it to because it was green and the card had yellow bars on it.
Cycling a new tank
Hi again Everyone...
I have only posted like 2 times.. lol
Here is something I have been looking for.... and you all
might be able to help out with this one...
I have a 75 gallon been doing great now for 5 mths.. got alot a live plants
here is my question.
Can a person take the filter out of lets say the 75 gallon take it right off the back.... and then set it
on the back of a NEW 120 Gallon.. to JUMP START the cycling process?
I have heard of taking the Bio Wheels and changing them out for the new ones. to help
jump start the Cycling process....
but what about just taking the entire Emperor 400 off of the 75 gallon thats established and putting it on the NEW 120 gallon tank.?????
Please any ideas and thoughts on this one.
I have been getting my 120 gallon set up... I have a brand new Emperor 400 Should I just change out the Bio Wheels or the entire filter system?
OK I HAVE YET ANOTHER QUESTION.... same fiter Emperor 400 I read an article on how a person put in the grey cartridges some MATRIX ROCK... and added a air line
PLEASE tell me if anyone can as to what the beneffit to this was? The article reads
OPTIMIZE an already GREAT FILTER..... but it never stated as to why it was better that way ???
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