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1077 09-18-2013 10:47 AM

Troubled with fish profiles.
Nearly all of the fish profiles were written by a former member here, but TFK team appear's to be taking the credit, with the author receiving mention only as contributer.(I just now noticed this travesty)
Is for this reason I can no longer participate.
Best wishes fellow fish hobbyist's.

jaysee 09-18-2013 11:10 AM

I know that change was done while he was still here, when the forum was receiving an overhaul.

I also know that I'll miss your intelligent, sensible posts.

BWG 09-18-2013 11:13 AM

I must be missing the part where anyone is taking credit. Care to point that out to me since they are obviously still Byron's work and untouched. Are you perhaps complaining that someone moved them (hence the listing under TFK team). You know with the forum realignment. I'm sure if Byron had wanted to leave his password, then it could red his name instead. How about instead of making up scandals and complaining you calmly ask about things or think them through? I'm not even a mod and I can figure this one out

Olympia 09-18-2013 11:16 AM

Yes he is given credit on each profile.
The TFK team profile was created because if the posts all appeared under just his name it would be unfair to other contributors. Many people contribute to these profiles so we created a generic user to be the poster of the profiles, credits at the bottom.

jaysee 09-18-2013 11:20 AM



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Weitzman, Stanley H. and Lisa Palmer (1996), "Do Freshwater Hatchetfishes Really Fly," Tropical Fish Hobbyist, September 1996, pp. 195-206.

Weitzman, Stanley H. and Lisa Palmer (2003), "Family Gasteropelecidae," in Checklist of the Freshwater Fishes of Central and South America, ed. Roberto E. Reis, Sven O. Kullander and Carl J. Ferraris; Porto Alegre: Edipucrs, pp. 101€“103.

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Contributing Members

The following members have contributed to this profile: Byron

I see this at the bottom of just about every profile.

1077 09-18-2013 12:54 PM

He was the Author of nearly all of the profiles, not merely contributer.Profiles now say,, BY TFK team.
That is my beef, Not many put in the work to present the material that now TFK team .
He was far more than contributer with respect to fish profiles not withstanding those that I may have contributed to.
You all can put lipstick on a pig,,but it's still a pig.

Olympia 09-18-2013 03:05 PM

So when there's multiple authors we should just give Byron all the credit? :s
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jaysee 09-18-2013 03:13 PM

Would it be better if the contributing authors were listed at the top of the post instead of at the bottom? I mean, is that what this is about - people knowing that byron wrote the profile before they read it?

Chesh 09-18-2013 03:38 PM

Though he is no longer an active member here, Byron put a lot of time and effort into making our profiles what they are - we would never seek to take the credit from him for his amazing contributions. Byron is the author of nearly, if not all, of the profiles, something that will always be very much appreciated by all of us! He is also the one who put his own name down as 'contributor,' as opposed to 'author.' I'm not entirely positive why it was decided so many years ago to use this specific wording, but I'm fairly sure Byron was involved in that decision, as well.

The profiles have been undergoing a dramatic move for several months now, this process began before Byron left, and at that time there was much discussion put into what would be the most efficient way to manage this task. It was decided, with Byron's vote, to move and re-post all of the profiles under this generic TFK Team name. Doing it this way allows all of the moderators to help with this massive undertaking, and we all felt that posting under a 'generic' user name would help in avoiding just this type of situation! I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable posting any of the profiles back up under my own name!

Byron moved a great many of the profiles himself - re-posting them under the TFK Team name . . .if he had any reservations with the way these profiles are now being posted, he certainly would have mentioned it, or at the very least suggested another way. The profiles were Byron's 'baby,' not one of us would have objected it if he had chosen to have them posted in his name, instead.

I hope that this eases your mind, I assure you that in NO WAY would we seek to take the credit away from Byron for all of his hard work and dedication. I appreciate your concern in this, but as far as I am aware, it truly is unfounded. . . I feel sure Byron would have spoken up if he felt that this was not the best way for us to go about this.

I hate to see you go, 1077 - I do hope that you will reconsider. I would miss your posts, too - your experience and input is valued by many members (and mods!) here on TFK. . .

ao 09-18-2013 04:55 PM

Byron himself pretty much moved, edited and made the profiles on the TFK Team account... But I can see where you are coming from.

All the profiles are posted under TFK Team to keep them from looking disorderly, and be somewhat officially TFK. Since only mods can post in the area, WE don't want to take credit for the profiles if another member wrote them as well. so posting under the account TFK Team was the best solution at the time.

Ofcourse we can bring it up with admin to rename the account "Profile" or something... But first we will have to see if TFK Team was used to post anything else to avoid confusion.

Byron was a very very big part of the changes and decision made about the new's practically his brainchild.

Edit: Just noticed this is under fresh water and tropical fish o_O
i'm going to move this to suggestions and feedback :3
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