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iSaliena 08-22-2013 12:56 PM

How often do I/ When do I clean my 10 Gallon Tank?
 
Hello! :)

Last week I got a 10 gallon MarineLand tank

It's filtered and has a heater.

It has 2 silk plants and pink gravol stone things.

It contains 2 african dwarf frogs, 2 red columbian tetras, and 1 Veil Tail Betta.

How often should I clean this tank?

And how the heck do I clean it??

marshallsea 08-22-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by iSaliena (Post 2858929)
Hello! :)

Last week I got a 10 gallon MarineLand tank

It's filtered and has a heater.

It has 2 silk plants and pink gravol stone things.

It contains 2 african dwarf frogs, 2 red columbian tetras, and 1 Veil Tail Betta.

How often should I clean this tank?

And how the heck do I clean it??

Your aquatic pets may be in trouble. You need to read up on cycling a tank/ the nitrogen cycle. There is a article on this subject somewhere on this forum. You need to be testing for ammonia as this can kill your pets. You should be doing daily 50% water changes with the correct water conditioner. Never clean your tank in the traditional sense.

moghedan 08-22-2013 02:14 PM

Get a gravel vac. Vac the gravel every weekend... or at least three times a month.

Stick the plastic tube down into the gravel and suck out the dark color, then move over a couple inches and do it again... ALL over the tank.

You will roughly pull out 30% of the water doing so.


Dump the removed water on your flower bed... it is the best fertilizer on the planet.


Add back the water to full, add dechlorinator dosed to the amount (about 4 gallons).







Watch out for fin nipping... the others will pick on the Betta eventually. There are ways to contain it, but they will not work in a 10 Gallon.


Future Reading:
Hyphessobrycon columbianus (Colombian Tetra) — Seriously Fish
Betta splendens – Siamese Fighting Fish — Seriously Fish
African dwarf frog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Specific areas of note: Feeding of African Frogs, Tank/School size for Columbian Tetras.

beaslbob 08-22-2013 03:07 PM

When i looks dirty. :lol:

I use a magnetic glass cleaner to get algae off the glass.

And every couple of years siphon crud off the substrate.

I also had a tank I did neither on for over 3 years with no algae.

But that's just me

and my .02

iSaliena 08-22-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by marshallsea (Post 2859209)
Your aquatic pets may be in trouble. You need to read up on cycling a tank/ the nitrogen cycle. There is a article on this subject somewhere on this forum. You need to be testing for ammonia as this can kill your pets. You should be doing daily 50% water changes with the correct water conditioner. Never clean your tank in the traditional sense.

There's no reason they should be in trouble I'm doing everything I am suppose to.

iSaliena 08-22-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by moghedan (Post 2859409)
Get a gravel vac. Vac the gravel every weekend... or at least three times a month.

Stick the plastic tube down into the gravel and suck out the dark color, then move over a couple inches and do it again... ALL over the tank.

You will roughly pull out 30% of the water doing so.


Dump the removed water on your flower bed... it is the best fertilizer on the planet.


Add back the water to full, add dechlorinator dosed to the amount (about 4 gallons).







Watch out for fin nipping... the others will pick on the Betta eventually. There are ways to contain it, but they will not work in a 10 Gallon.


Future Reading:
Hyphessobrycon columbianus (Colombian Tetra) — Seriously Fish
Betta splendens Siamese Fighting Fish — Seriously Fish
African dwarf frog - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Specific areas of note: Feeding of African Frogs, Tank/School size for Columbian Tetras.

Oh okay sounds easy enough :) Thank you.

BWG 08-22-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by iSaliena (Post 2860897)
There's no reason they should be in trouble I'm doing everything I am suppose to.

Sorry, but they are in trouble. Colombian tetras need to be in groups of 6-8 and are too active to be in a 10 gallon. In small numbers and a too small tank it's almost guaranteed that they will fin nip your betta. So even if you are watching ammonia and nitrites and doing water changes to keep them down (assuming your tank isn't cycled), then you're still not doing everything you're supposed to.

aussieJJDude 08-23-2013 03:18 AM

I totally agree with blackwaterguy!
Also, we all trying to help you and your fishes, I sure that you may not typed it to sound rude, but in text, it came across very rude! one thing i suggest it to read it to yourself and think off the "rudeness" factor! :lol:

I saw your tank, and other thing I suggest is for you to make it look more natural for the fishes! Maybe get bogwood, stones (not sharp edges, you don't want your betta fins getting ripped) and silk plants, in the pics they don't look that silky! :-D But it could just be me! A good idea is to look at other peoples fish tanks and "steal" ideas off from them! :shock: That what I do on most occasions! (Sorry guys if you see a part of my tank looking like yours!) Also, look into getting live plants such as java moss - the fish will love this as it will give homey feel to them -; duckweed - a true weed, this grows fast but you could sell some of the weed for some small quick cash! - or water sprite - a great plant that can be either floating or planted into the sub.. All the plants I suggest can do well with out the need for ferts.. :)
I would give the tetras back to the store - unless you want to upgrade or get another (bigger) tank for them with a few more buddies! They don't do well in a small 10G as they really love to school - more the merrier, but a suggest the min. of 8 - and they quite active and grow quite large! :)

djembekah 08-23-2013 03:40 AM

I would return the tetras and stick with the bettas and the frogs. After it is cycled and you still have room you might be able to add something tiny, but honestly for a new fish keeper, 1 betta and 2 frogs is enough work. do weekly water changes like they said, monitor water parameters with a liquid test kit, and watch your parameters become stable.
Also watch to br sure your frogs are getting enough to eat. keeping frogs with fish can sometimes lead to the frogs not getting enough to eat. They're also fairly sensitive to water parameters.
alternatively do it bob's way, watch your fish die off until your cycle steadies itself, and then let poop pile up everywhere :)
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moghedan 08-23-2013 08:00 AM

On the other side of the coin, new fishkeepers that come to a forum to find people telling them they are doing everything wrong also seems rude; even when you are just trying to help, it doesn't translate well into text.


You have to ease into the conversation in text. PETA Death Commandos shouting, "How could you, you monster?!?!?" need not apply. If your comment puts the subject on the defensive, you have already lost. No one likes to hear they bought poorly and needs to return something to the store. That comment, more than any other, turns people off... turns them off from listening to you, turns them off from visiting the forum, and turns them off from the hobby.


Especially important is to answer their question, as completely as possible. Ignoring the question to just criticize is almost as big a turn off as telling them to return stuff to the store.

Now, let's examine the exact issues at hand:

Tetra's like larger schools. This is true, but remember... that is a defensive tactic. These tetras are either the largest, or very nearly the largest, things in the tank. Nothing is a threat to them, and they will not take long to notice it. These are not tiny Neons... these are Columbians. They are not going to suffer from any lasting harm in the current situation.

The betta is vulnerable. The Columbians are going to have a hard time passing up a chance to nip those flowing fins. The betta is far to slow to get away, and the tank offers no hiding locations. The Columbians could be contained if there was a larger group, but they will not fit in the current tank.

The frogs are fine in that regard, but are also too slow and will have a hard time competing with the Columbians for food.



Now, it may or may not be a cycled tank. Information has not yet been provided. His or her question was about water changes and tank cleaning. That's good, as it helps resolve the primary concern. If you do not agree with fish in cycling, turn away... it's not your tank and not your place to impose your will on others. If the tank is already cycled, so much the better.

The second issue becomes the betta and it being bullied. The third is the frogs starving. Neither of these is immediately life threatening, but could become so in a very short while. Mention them as areas of concern.

The final issue is the Columbian's size and desire for a larger group. This is not an immediate issue; nor is it resolvable from our list of resources. It is worth mentioning.

Finally, include links to some followup research. There is a vast resource of fish files out there that many have no idea exist. Google might be your friend, but it takes only moments to provide a few links to move them in the right direction. Someone may or may not make use of them, but that is beyond our scope.




iSaliena, I hope I have neither embarrassed you by breaking down your posting, nor angered you for hijacking it for a pet peeve of mine.


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