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Nightfish 06-10-2009 12:46 AM

Goldfish, the seldom-amongst longtimer fish
 
Well, I don't see a place for these colourful little guys. Since I began having pet fish, I always went back to "goldfish".
They are my favorites, they have a lot that tropical fish don't-I think-for one, a lot of tropical fish look the same, I like a tank of colourful individuals. Nothing against any of the others, I think all fish are cool (though I'd never feed a goldfish to anything, I don't like the whole "feeder fish" thing).
right now I have 10 fish in my new tank, and named them all (with somewhat silly names)

Dennis – Rosy Red Minnow
Donny – Mosquito Fish (thats what the site said-he was sold as a Rosy Red)
Dave – Rosy Red Minnow
Amoeba – Comet
Montreal Waters – Comet
Phil Collins – Shubunkin (I think, that's what they said)
Lenin – Shubunkin (I think, that's what they said)Biggie Smalls – Comet
Lt. Orange – Comet
Nightfish – Betta



Well obviously Nightfish is a Betta and not a goldfish, but does very well with them (can't keep him with them when changing the water or something of the like, he gets mad)

But the other fish get a long with him and its a great set up.
anyone else have any "goldfish" ?

Lupin 06-10-2009 12:53 AM

I have watonai, oranda, ryukin, fantail and pearlscale. Used to have shubs, comets, bubble eyes, etc a few years back.:wink:

willow 06-10-2009 01:47 AM

i used to keep commets,however a change in things,the pond was dismantled
and i donated my fish to the cematary,where some of my family are laid to rest,
they have lovely ponds there,and i get to see them.
apart from a beautiful white female,who was eaten from my pond by a heron.

Nightfish 06-10-2009 10:17 AM

I'd have shot that Heron lol (though it would have been only with a pellet or a paintball gun-canada has some pretty "uncool" gun laws lol)

IonBaller07 06-10-2009 06:01 PM

Ive never had goldfish but I deffinitly would if I had a bigger tank. HOw did you go about getting a betta to live with them, dont goldfish need much colder water.

Lupin 06-10-2009 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IonBaller07 (Post 203517)
Ive never had goldfish but I deffinitly would if I had a bigger tank. HOw did you go about getting a betta to live with them, dont goldfish need much colder water.

I addressed that in another thread of his. Goldfish definitely need cooler temperature than the betta requires. Either species suffers from the mix.

Nightfish 06-10-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lupin (Post 203519)
I addressed that in another thread of his. Goldfish definitely need cooler temperature than the betta requires. Either species suffers from the mix.

goldfish are quite "open" to different temperatures, though sudden shock changes will kill them, betta's have always done well with my goldfish ya know
I could just be lucky

onekatietwo 06-10-2009 07:45 PM

I have one Ryukin and one black Moor. I'm going to get a few more as soon as I get a 55 gallon tank set up and cycled.

I think goldfish are my favorites (Hmm, maybe after sharks...) I just wish they were smaller. It takes a HUGE aquarium to keep goldfish. Or, well, a pond. But that's too much money and work for me right now.

There is a thread in the Cyprinids and Atherinids forum just for goldfish pictures. You should put yours up.

Nightfish 06-10-2009 07:59 PM

odd thing happened today-one of my fish vanished...no body, no trace (eg no body or splashes if he jumped out, which I never heard a minnow do-its a rosy red)
its all just goldfish in the tank (some big some small) nothing would have eaten him-even if the betta attacked it there'd still be a corpse
and no other animals are allowed in the room...
very odd...

***well I found him, stuck in "Biggie Smalls" mouth, he couldn't spit it out so had to get the little thing out with some tweezers, that was tricky to say the least***

so I gotta get a new Rosy Red-these things happen-seems 1 in 3 goldfish you get from most anywhere dies within a day or two, really sad

Lupin 06-11-2009 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfish (Post 203541)
goldfish are quite "open" to different temperatures, though sudden shock changes will kill them, betta's have always done well with my goldfish ya know
I could just be lucky

Well, frankly, I disagree. At higher temperature, you risk increasing their metabolic rate more than necessary or normal. In the process, you shortened severely the lifespan of your fish. Fancy goldfish prefer their temperature a little warmer but no more than 76 degrees however you have "pond" strains particularly comets and shubunkins. Both strains prefer cooler temperature by at least 71-73 degrees. Will your betta thrive at all in this situation? No, it will not. It does not get cold where they originate. In the end, you are still incorrectly accommodating your fish. We can agree to disagree here about your methods. In the end, it is your fish so that's up to you to justify how you accommodate your own fish.


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