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RBReddin75 06-03-2009 08:49 AM

A Beginner's Silly Questions about Saltwater Setups
 
I did a search and didn't find a "single source" thread for beginners, if there is one, will a MOD please move this thread....

This is a spot for people to ask you pros their silly questions...

I'll start (as I seem to have a lot of them)




1. Are tank gallon sizes taken from the inside of the glass or the outside of the glass ? (in the larger tanks, this can be quite a discrepancy)


2. Do all tanks mature to the point where their sumps and displays are completely covered in algae? (cause I'm a lil OCD so I can't handle the "grungy" look very well... )


3. Do any of you running MH lights find that your heater rarely is on during the day? (you can roast marshmallows in front of the 200's)





of course, anyone else, feel free to post your questions here also... (it'll also be a good place for the "what is this" pictures)

onefish2fish 06-03-2009 01:57 PM

1. im not sure how people do it but i use the inside of the glass. i have 1/2 glass. tanks with thinner glass wont really effect much gallon wise, again if you want to exact volume measure the inside and use a fishtank gallon calculator off the web.
2. coraline algae will grow everywhere. usually starting with powerheads and plastic things first then the back wall. i suggest an algae scrapper like a mag float to zip around the glass every day or every other day and once or twice a month use a hand scraper to get the coraline algae growing along the bottom edge on the front glass.
3. seeing your in GA the temps are bound to get hot. id guess the heater wont be on much and you may want to consider fans in your canopy for your lights or blowing over your sump or running a chiller.

Kellsindell 06-04-2009 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RBReddin75 (Post 201033)


2. Do all tanks mature to the point where their sumps and displays are completely covered in algae? (cause I'm a lil OCD so I can't handle the "grungy" look very well... )

It's quite potential that it can take the entire tank over, but look at this tank at Oregonreef.com . This guy is OCD and he has had the tank up for 6or7 years... you be the judge.

Arkamaic 06-04-2009 10:36 PM

Since this topic was related to beginner's questions, no need to start a new thread and waste space.

My question:

I just got talking to my dad on the phone and he is interested in starting up a saltwater tank. He asked me how much it would cost, and being a freshwater person myself, I couldn't really give him an answer.

He was wanting something like a 75 gallon. Could anyone give me a rough estimate on the cost of the tank, stand, live sand as well as coral?

Much appreciated.

Pasfur 06-05-2009 05:51 AM

A good estimate for a reef setup is $40 to $50 per gallon.

RBReddin75 06-05-2009 06:57 AM

talk to local fish stores (LFS) and see if they have any "used but in good condition" setups.. I know that when I was first entertaining a saltwater setup (i still haven't assembled the one that I got yet) there were several LFS guys that "knew a guy" getting rid of a tank or with one in his garage that they'd unload for $1800-$2100... and that included everything (sump, plumbing, skimmer, Ca reactor, timers, lighting, etc)... I traded a handgun for my setup that would have cost me over $4000 if I were to go buy new..

Saltwater fish only with live rock (FOWLR) will be a cheaper setup than trying to put together a reef tank (the main difference that I can tell is that reef tanks with hard corals have more expensive lighting systems and can add things like chillers(to cool the water during the day, while the Metal Halide lights are running), Calcium Reactors (to automate the calcium dosing process - which is usually daily for a hard coral reef)

If he can live with it... the nanocubes are a great way to get into the hobby and I've seen some great reefs in them for typically less than $500..

Pasfur 06-06-2009 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by RBReddin75 (Post 201033)
2. Do all tanks mature to the point where their sumps and displays are completely covered in algae? (cause I'm a lil OCD so I can't handle the "grungy" look very well... )

There are 2 types of algae issues in a marine aquarium. The goal is to encourage coraline algae growth, which helps to inhibit the growth of nuisance algaes.

This is accomplished with proper maintenance and setup, which includes testing and dosing for calcium and alkalinity. It is much easier to fight algae by creating the proper environment.

RBReddin75 06-08-2009 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasfur (Post 201952)
There are 2 types of algae issues in a marine aquarium. The goal is to encourage coraline algae growth, which helps to inhibit the growth of nuisance algaes.

This is accomplished with proper maintenance and setup, which includes testing and dosing for calcium and alkalinity. It is much easier to fight algae by creating the proper environment.

after reading some more, "green hair algae" is the algae that I'm talking about.. (that typically covers sumps, lines, etc... ) and salt creep is another one of those things that I'll have to keep cleaned up..

I just don't want the Aquarium to be messy... I know there are messy parts, but I'm laying out the base so as to include the equipment required, yet be easy to keep clean..

Kellsindell 06-08-2009 09:56 PM

my turn for a silly question! (but a real question for many so might as well get it out there too)

What's this red slime stuff on my sand bed and rocks? it goes away at night and then comes back during the day?

onefish2fish 06-08-2009 10:18 PM

red slime algae or cyano bacteria


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