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srsmith24 01-11-2007 02:09 PM

Treating Ich
 
I realized on the 9th that I had introduced ich into my 55g tank, when I added to otto's (both died w/i days) to my tank

My Black Neons and Emperor tetras showed signs on fins, cherry barbs and rainbow fish showed no outward signs but are stressed. Two remaining otto's - 1 seems fine, the other not well.

I've raised the temp to 80 and added salt (2 tsp * 45 gal - assuming gravel, tank contents will consume some space). I've also stopped turning on the lights as the fish "seem" less stressed. I'm continuing feeding as I'm assuming that fish that are eating is a positive sign.
I've reduced the water level slightly and added an air stone for increase water agitation / oxygen

Questions:
Should I increase the tank temp even higher?

Water changes during the treatment phase? There seems to be varing opinons - my own thoughts that I should do minor changes, primarily to vacuum gravel in order to eliminate some of the parasites. I thought ever other day????

Many articles talk about continuing treatment at least 1 week after outward signs of ich are gone, I assume that articles are referring to either salt or chemical treatments. I haven't seen anything about when I should start reducing the temp?

Thank for any help.

musho3210 01-11-2007 03:54 PM

have you got a smaller quarantine tank, like a 10 or 20 gallon empty tank?

Derek-M 01-11-2007 04:37 PM

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Should I increase the tank temp even higher?
The optimum temp for killing spot is 83f but not all fish will tolerate high temps so keep a close eye on things

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Water changes during the treatment phase? There seems to be varing opinons - my own thoughts that I should do minor changes, primarily to vacuum gravel in order to eliminate some of the parasites. I thought ever other day????
You can never over water change as good water will aid in the recovery of the fish... Are you using meds and if so what are you using?

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Many articles talk about continuing treatment at least 1 week after outward signs of ich are gone, I assume that articles are referring to either salt or chemical treatments. I haven't seen anything about when I should start reducing the temp?
I agree with continuing the treatment for a week after all signs of the parasite has gone. I would start to slowly reduce the temp back to normal after that

srsmith24 01-11-2007 04:38 PM

My understanding from reading posts on other forums is that once ich is present, you have to treat the tank, not the individual fish. The parasites must be eliminated within the tank itself

Derek-M 01-11-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by srsmith24
My understanding from reading posts on other forums is that once ich is present, you have to treat the tank, not the individual fish. The parasites must be eliminated within the tank itself

That is correct as the parasite will be present in the water and it is only whilst waterbourne can the meds kill it

srsmith24 01-11-2007 04:51 PM

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Are you using meds and if so what are you using?
I decided using on a salt treatment first, if it fails then perhaps another med.

RubberFrog 01-11-2007 05:46 PM

80 is fine. 82-83 is better, but it sure is hard on the fish when combined with the ich and the hyposalinity treatment.

Water changes every 2-3 days will help as well, since the fish will be more sensitive to ammonia at the higher temp. Be sure to salt your change water accordingly.

11 days of treatment is a minimum. I go 14 just to satisfy my paranoia.

You'll hear lots of opinions and mine is only one of them. However, my experience with ich is that 2 teaspoons of NaCl per gallon @ 80 for 14 days works everytime.

RubberFrog 01-11-2007 05:48 PM

Also, at the end of the treatment you don't need to do anything special to remove the salt. It will gradually and safely be removed over time with your regular water change schedule.

bettababy 01-12-2007 12:16 AM

If you decide to go the way of other medication, the best thing for the fish you are keeping is a med called Formalin. Dose it according to directions, remove all carbon from tank/filter during medication time.
Be careful if you attempt to use any other med because some of your fish are very sensitive to some of the ick medications on the market. The formalin is one that everything you listed would tolerate safely, and it works well.
Good Luck... all good information here for you so far!

srsmith24 01-12-2007 06:48 AM

Thanks to all for your input....last night I started incresing the temp, roughly 81-82 and I do see a difference in some of the fish reaction....
Cherry barbs are hovering at the top of the tank so I think they feel a bit oxygen deprived. Tetras seem to have taken the increase a lttle better.
Anyway, I decided to bring the temp back down to 80. I really just want to alleviate any stress that I can.

All the fish are still eating so I'm still taking that as a positive sign.


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