Tropical Fish Keeping - Aquarium fish care and resources

Tropical Fish Keeping - Aquarium fish care and resources (http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/)
-   Cichlids (http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/cichlids/)
-   -   Angelfish injured (http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/cichlids/angelfish-injured-23319/)

PCast66 04-22-2009 08:18 AM

Angelfish injured
 
Hello, I made a post yesterday about my fish tank becoming a little crowded. To make a long story short I had 5 fish in a 10 gal and then my friend gave me 4 because he could no longer care for them, so Ive had 9 fish in a 10 gal for about 3-4 days. I have 3 angels, an iridescent shark, a clown pleco, 2 lyretail mollies and 2 opaline gouramis. The mollies and gouramis are the new additions. I noticed this morning that one of my angelfish (about the size of a quarter) wasnt swimming well, and then noticed his two side fins were all torn up. This must have happened overnight because I watch him probably the most and he was fine last night. I have him in a seperate container floating in the tank right now, and I noticed that one of the other angels, about his size, seems to want to get to those injured fins. What I'd like to know is 1. Is it possible that it was the other angelfish? Like I said 2 are about the size of a quarter and the other one is maybe half dollar sized. Or could it have been one of the other fish? 2. Im setting up a 30 gallon tonight(only reason it took so long was I had to travel an hour to get it), would this likely make the fish less aggressive? and 3. If I keep him seperate for a while will his fins repair themselves? Or are they like that permanently? Hes really having trouble swimming and keeps getting pushed around by the filters flow. None of the original 5 fish were aggressive to each other, and I havent seen any of the new ones be aggressive to the old ones(just one gourami to the other) so Im thinking perhaps the addition of the new fish stressed out the angel and he attacked the other? Any help you can give would be appreciated. Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to cover all my bases. And I tested the water, everything is fine if that makes a difference in this situation.

1077 04-22-2009 08:42 AM

All of the fish are stressed due to crowded conditions. Get the 30 gal set up as described yeserday and keep their water clean, and toxins(ammonia,nitrites) diluted through water changes and damaged fins can grow back. Look for more of same until fish have more room. Daily two gal water changes and rinsing the filter in old aquarium water will be needed in my view for the ten gal so long as the current fish are in the tank.

PCast66 04-22-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1077 (Post 189705)
All of the fish are stressed due to crowded conditions. Get the 30 gal set up as described yeserday and keep their water clean, and toxins(ammonia,nitrites) diluted through water changes and damaged fins can grow back. Look for more of same until fish have more room. Daily two gal water changes and rinsing the filter in old aquarium water will be needed in my view for the ten gal so long as the current fish are in the tank.

Yes I have been doing about 2 gallons a day in water changes(I use the same pitcher each time which is probably about a gallon). Should I keep him in the seperate container for a little bit or let him back in? The 30 gal will be getting set up tonight after I get home from work

1077 04-22-2009 09:46 AM

Prolly wouldn't hurt to keep the damaged fish as you currently are.

PCast66 04-22-2009 11:37 AM

Thanks for all your help, i just got a phone call from my roommate and he died :(

1077 04-22-2009 11:49 AM

:-(

ambria 04-28-2009 06:55 PM

I bought 4 angelfish the size of a dime and then I had I had Giant Danios. The next day, three of them was dead. I returned the Danios and the three dead fish and waited to see if the 4th one would die, but it is still alive with two more new angelfish. So the danios killed them. Angwk fish are so frail when they are so small. So now in a 55 gallon, I have 3 angels the size of a dime, upside down catfish, pleco, and a bala shark. I told my husnabd if all my angels die I would turn the aqaurium into a shark tank...lol Sorry for your loss.

ambria 04-28-2009 07:30 PM

Speaking of dead angelfish, I just found one of mine dead. maybe the big pleco accidentally killed him. he was fine earlier. Poor fishy!

Byron 04-29-2009 10:10 AM

The problems identified in the earlier posts are not that the fish is frail (necessarily), it is either the wrong combination of fish or too small a tank. Angelfish are fairly sedentary in their habits; they prefer cruising around slowly among plant leaves and branches, rather than darting here and there. They therefore do not make good tank companions for fish like danios that are active. They will either be stressed and prone to disease from that, or fins will get nipped and lead to stress and disease. And angelfish get big and need room from the start. Keeping potentially-largish fish in small quarters is believed by some scientists to cause internal problems because the organs grow but the outer body can't. Best thing would be to buy fish that will be adequately housed in the tank when they become adult.

On the pleco, I would doubt that a normal pleco would attack an angelfish. Plecos and corys are suitable fish to house with angelfish.

iamntbatman 05-01-2009 12:34 PM

Do you already have the 30g tank? With angelfish, the most important factor in choosing an appropriate tank is the height, as they get to be very tall fish (much taller than long). Eighteen inches in height is usually the minimum for housing angels. I don't believe a standard 30g tank is this tall so if you haven't bought it yet, I would continue shopping for something that is at least 18 inches tall.

Beware that in the future, you two remaining angels may a) form a pair and start breeding, in which case they may become quite aggressive to your other fish or b) be the same sex and may not get along with one another. Also, because they're both fairly territorial top-level swimmers, the angels and the gouramis may not get along. Mollies are also known to pick on angels, especially their fins. Keep an eye out for any of these problems. Finally, the iridescent shark grows to nearly four feet in length and is an active swimmer (and schooler), so isn't really suitable for any tank less than several thousand gallons in size. They're definitely on my list of fish that should not be sold as aquarium pets.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:58 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2