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Termato 07-21-2013 09:15 PM

Angel Fish swollen fin
 
So I just got home from my friends house in Frederick for his birthday. I spent the night out there. Before I left I had noticed that the male angel fish has his fin a little irritated but was still swimming fine. I put some extra water with Prime in the tank just to make sure everything was good.

When I get home his fins look like this (Keep in mine that I JUST fed them so the water look cloudy :( ):

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He is not swimming as freely with that other fin although he is not having a hard time. There are white spots, you can barely see them. They look like pimples almost. If anyone knows what it is, please let me know. I'm doing some research right now on it. I just got home.

I checked all the water parameters and everything is fine. Thanks for help in advance.

Termato 07-21-2013 10:28 PM

Here is a crappy low quality video of it: Angel fish - swollen fin (unknown disease) - YouTube

BarbH 07-22-2013 02:20 AM

First beautiful angels and tank. Not sure what might be going on. Good luck and hope he is doing better soon.

Chesh 07-22-2013 06:39 AM

Termie! I'm so sorry you're dealing with this, I wish I had some input to offer, but all I can say is keep the water as pristine as possible - and you know that already. :(

hoping someone with angelfish experience will be by soon to help. . . *HUGS*

Sakura8 07-22-2013 11:21 AM

Hey, Chesh asked me to take a look at your thread. Looks like are a couple possibilities for the swollen fin.

One is your angelfish could be developing lymphocystis, a usually nonfatal virus that causes cauliflower-like cysts on the fins and body. Depending on the severity, the cysts could be localized in one spot and stay on that fin or they could spread more. You can't treat this virus but it almost always clears up on its own after a few months. Only dangers are if the cysts are on the head and interfere with eating or if a cyst bursts and gets infected.

Second possibility is not so pleasant. :( It is glugea, an internal protozoan that initially manifests itself as white pimple-like cysts on the fins and body before going on to destroy the internal organs. There is no known treatment and the disease is fatal. Unfortunately, because the cysts look just like lympho cysts, there's no way to know which one your angelfish may have without an expensive veterinarian pathology test.

My best advice would be to keep the angelfish as isolated as possible and avoid any possibility of cross-contamination as glugea is definitely infectious and there may be several species-specific types out there; one of my sources speculates there is even an anabantoid-specific type. :(

To ease some of the angelfish's distress, you could try adding API Stress Coat or Kordon Fish Protector to the water, or possibly trying an AQ salt dip to help promote slime coat growth.

I hope it's just lympho. Best of luck and keep us updated.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that it seems like glugea is fairly rare so chances are it's lympho.

Termato 07-22-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakura8 (Post 2612217)
Hey, Chesh asked me to take a look at your thread. Looks like are a couple possibilities for the swollen fin.

One is your angelfish could be developing lymphocystis, a usually nonfatal virus that causes cauliflower-like cysts on the fins and body. Depending on the severity, the cysts could be localized in one spot and stay on that fin or they could spread more. You can't treat this virus but it almost always clears up on its own after a few months. Only dangers are if the cysts are on the head and interfere with eating or if a cyst bursts and gets infected.

Second possibility is not so pleasant. :( It is glugea, an internal protozoan that initially manifests itself as white pimple-like cysts on the fins and body before going on to destroy the internal organs. There is no known treatment and the disease is fatal. Unfortunately, because the cysts look just like lympho cysts, there's no way to know which one your angelfish may have without an expensive veterinarian pathology test.

My best advice would be to keep the angelfish as isolated as possible and avoid any possibility of cross-contamination as glugea is definitely infectious and there may be several species-specific types out there; one of my sources speculates there is even an anabantoid-specific type. :(

To ease some of the angelfish's distress, you could try adding API Stress Coat or Kordon Fish Protector to the water, or possibly trying an AQ salt dip to help promote slime coat growth.

I hope it's just lympho. Best of luck and keep us updated.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that it seems like glugea is fairly rare so chances are it's lympho.

Thank you so much!

I'm going to set the 29 gallon up today, but in the mean time I can keep this angel in the 10 gallon (although I don't want to) just to isolate him.

Any thoughts about that?

Sakura8 07-22-2013 10:22 PM

Keeping him in a 10gal should be fine while he recovers, although he could be there for a while. Lympho is contagious as well but as long as the other fish have strong immune systems and don't get stressed, most of them fight off the virus before it ever shows up as cysts. If he starts to act stressed at the confined space, you could move him back and take a chance but as long as the water quality stays good, chances of the other fish getting a serious case are small.

Termato 07-23-2013 12:04 AM

I'm going to test and clean out the 10 gallon tomorrow because I'm working from home and then he should be all good. I'm giving him all the attention tomorrow. :) I will keep everyone posted and so far thank you all very much for the help! It is greatly appreciated!

Sakura8 07-23-2013 12:37 AM

You're welcome. Best of luck with him. He's really gorgeous. I really hope it's just lympho that clears up soon. :)

Agent13 07-23-2013 05:56 PM

oh.. just looked at the video and now I know this is what I had with one of my angels!. For some reason I forgot we even went through that because it was so soon after getting him and so long ago. He didn't use that one fin for a while during the issue. It was most likely lymphocystis on mine. He had a full recovery and all I did was keep the water super clean...like over the top paranoid clean lol. It took a while..can't really recall how long but went way. I was very thankful to slow back on the rediculous water changes after that and probably mentally blocked it out because it was a lot of work to keep the water clean as I decided not to QT mine because My house was already full of 3 qt tanks with new cichlids n didn't want to start another. Long story short. My angel is fine and now much bigger and from what I can tell he is the peace keeping angel I have. Only after effects are..me obsessing over the water quality of that tank :lol:(BTW it was always perfect water quality..just for some reason the sickness made be obsess on that )


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