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Psychmajor 04-12-2009 09:08 PM

Which type?
Ok, before i begin, cut me some slack on the posts that I am sure to do soon. I am new to this forum, and have never done a saltwater tank before. I know that they are significantly different to run than a freshwater (which is what i have) and that live rock and live sand is important to have. That is the extent of my knowledge. ANyway this particular post is to find out what type of filter would be best to use on a 10 gallon tank? I am starting smal before i make a big project out of this..

Psychmajor 04-13-2009 08:48 AM

Adding on to my original post, the type of filter you recommend should be one i can easliy find at a walmart or small fish store as I live in nowheresville and dont always trust for stuff to be shipped. Also, on the cheapish side wuld be nice too :)

onefish2fish 04-13-2009 09:59 PM

no filter, your not going to find skimmers at walmart or live rock or even sand for that matter. i think your going to have to use an online fish site at some point if you want to do this right.

Pasfur 04-13-2009 10:03 PM

Marine systems do not utilize a "filter" in the normal use of the word. In a marine aquarium you use live sand and live rock, along with a Protein Skimmer, to remove organic wastes from the water. This is the entire filtration system for a marine aquarium.

There is no logical reason not to trust internet providers, provided you have a good recommendation. So, let me give you one. Aquarium Supplies, Pet Supplies and Pond Supplies by That Fish Place - That Pet Place I have shipped from them for over 10 years, a couple dozen different shipments, without the first problem or delay.

If you can provide more details about your goals for this aquarium, we can provide some very specific recommendations.

Psychmajor 04-14-2009 10:17 AM

ALright, I just bought a 75 gallon tank from craiglist. it is 40 L x 18 W x 20 tall, give or take. it comes with a double filtration aqua-tech 30-60 system,2 new filters, air filtration, and a heater. (This is what the guy is selling, along iwth some deco stuff and some gravel). I know I need a saltwater test kit. (i know it also needs the powerheads for the live rock). I have been told to use ro water, but I am not sure if my lfs sells this, (they are kinda small time). I know I can buy a ro system, but they get pricey. So any ideas about water? I ill be buying about 10 lbs of live rock (which i know isnt enough for this big of a tank, but i will be adding more as time goes by, just cant do it all at once) live sand (40 lbs to start with, then probably more to make a dsb) Since this is a new tank, i know i have to cycle the tank and re-cure the rock. after all of this i will then finally add the fish, probably a few clown and damsel fish. hows that for descriptive? lol

Psychmajor 04-14-2009 10:27 AM

I want to start a tank that i can manage and can give me enjoyment.Im not looking to go all crazy and stuff with it, just some cool stuff in it. I have a qustion though, what is your take on refugium rubble?

Pasfur 04-14-2009 07:33 PM

A couple of observations. I would not buy the sand a little bit at a time. Different bacteria develop at different sand depths. You need to add it all at once, or you risk die off as you add additional sand later. For a 75 gallon tank you will probably need 4 x 40 pound bags of reef grade aragonite sand.

Check out for help with the live rock expense. See my 180 and 58 builds in the Saltwater Video and Pictures area for some details on this rock. You can get 50 pounds delivered for about $135. I suggest the Fiji Dry rock for base rock in your system. If you add 20 pounds of live rock, this will get you a very nice start.

Those AquaSystem filters are a piece of junk on a marine tank. I would run them EMPTY for water movement only. Do not use any of the filtration components of these filters. Zip, nadda, none. For an explanation, see this short article on marine filtration: filtration

I don't recall you saying anything about a protein skimmer. This is critical. What are your plans?

Psychmajor 04-14-2009 07:45 PM

I plan on getting a protein skimmer soon. I don thave the tank yet, once I do, I am going to get the water in place. once thats in, then ill get the live rock and the skimmer. once the rock has had time to settle in, then i will add the sand. I think i mistyped when i said i was going to add sand a bit at a time. I really meant to say the rock only, sorry for the confusion. So, if i were to run the aqua-tech dry, then i wont need a powerhead, because it will be doing the same thing, right? or should i get one anyway. fortunatly, i didn tspend moeny on the aqua-tech, i really am spending 200 for a tank and stand, the other stuff is just coming with it.

purpledolphin 04-14-2009 08:03 PM

i'm planning on starting a saltwater tank, i just want to do the research and make sure i understand everything before i do. there's going to be a lot of money invested and it's not a challenge i'm going to take lightly. Psychmajor, this is a little off topic, but i noticed that you mentioned having a few clown and damsel fish. just wanted to let you know that i've heard from various resources damsel fish "pick on" clown fish and you should use caution when keeping these two fish together.

Psychmajor 04-14-2009 08:05 PM

I hdnt heard that, but thanks for the heads up, i tihnk it wi be ok becuase it is a big enough tank. but thanks

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