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RobertTheFish 07-17-2013 11:40 PM

El Niņo Fern from Pestmart? (I should know better by now)
 
Please help. I bought a couple El Niņo ferns from the Pestmart without knowing anything about them.

Can anyone tell me anything about them? They're getting black around the edges of the leaves and I fear they will have to go if I can't get them healthy.

Thank you so much! Links appreciated, I can read!

JDM 07-18-2013 09:25 AM

There's a very good chance that it is just not an aquatic plant. If you could post a pic of even do an image search and find a match that we could see... perhaps it's a java fern and the browning could be normal. I have some do that as they produce daughter plants.

In any case the ferns typically are a rhizome plant and if you bury the rhizome (roots) they can rot and the plant will die off. Usually these are attached to driftwood or rocks but large gravel substrate might not be as bad as smaller grained gravel or sand.

Jeff.

rexpepper651 07-18-2013 10:41 AM

my petsmart always has horrible looking plants. browning and with alot of algae on them. i try not to buy plants from them. i dont like how they keep snails in their tank. lol

BWG 07-18-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertTheFish (Post 2579090)
Please help. I bought a couple El Niņo ferns from the Pestmart without knowing anything about them.

Can anyone tell me anything about them? They're getting black around the edges of the leaves and I fear they will have to go if I can't get them healthy.

Thank you so much! Links appreciated, I can read!

El Niņo ferns are Bolbitis heteroclita. Some people do use it in aquariums, but it can be a serious challenge to convert to submerged growth and keep it alive. I'd personally just consist it a terrarium plant (which is how I plan to one day keep it).

Bolbitis heteroclita

RobertTheFish 07-18-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blackwaterguy (Post 2582706)
... it can be a serious challenge to convert to submerged growth and keep it alive. I'd personally just consist it a terrarium plant (which is how I plan to one day keep it).

Bolbitis heteroclita


Blackwaterguy, Thanks for the info!

Please excuse crude diagram, but do you think this would work if I could get the leaves to stick out of the water?

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/.../PlantJack.jpg

RobertTheFish 07-18-2013 01:43 PM

The more I read, the more it looks like I should be tying this thing to driftwood rather than sticking it in gravel. I think I'll tie it to some driftwood inside the upper flower pot.

Sound like a plan?

BWG 07-18-2013 02:16 PM

To be honest I have no clue how well the flowerpot plan will work. Aquatic ferns typically like good water circulation and having it in the pot wouldn't allow that. I really don't know how or if that changes when the leaves extend out of the water and it is half submerged. I've only started looking into growing emersed plants. Sadly about the only thing I can say is try it and let us know.

RobertTheFish 07-18-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackwaterguy (Post 2583354)
Aquatic ferns typically like good water circulation and having it in the pot wouldn't allow that.

Ok. Awesome info. Redesign: I'll use a pot for the bottom. for the top I'll use one of the little dishes that you typically put underneath. A skimmer of ecolite in the top dish, set little driftwood stick on top of that, tie fern to stick. Give the leaves a little air to breathe.

Will keep you posted. Thanks again!
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RobertTheFish 07-19-2013 10:58 AM

So here's the modified plan taking shape.

Going to bust out the angle grinder and the diamond blade in just a minute here...wish me luck and may the vibration gods be kind today. I got 2 of everything just in case.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/...4BEB6E6B00.jpg

JDM 07-19-2013 11:29 AM

You know, you could just float them on a piece of wood weighed down a bit to partially submerge it or tied off to a rock on the bottom with some fishing line.

Jeff.


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