New fish owner seeks advice on tank set up!
Note: Unfortunately, the 4-5 paragraph summary of my brief history with fish got deleted somehow, and so I will just stick to the facts this time around.
First, let me say Hi! I'm new to this forum, and to fish ownership in general. I started out like many, with not-so-great advice from Petco and a tank that was much too small for my two goldfish (a Black Moor and a Shubunkin), and ended up losing the Shubunkin. After much research and deliberation, I ended up getting the following today:
15 Gallon glass aquarium
Marineland Emperor 280 Bio-Wheel (rated at 50 gallons)
The original filter/pump from the 2.5 gallon "starter kit" from Petco
30 lbs of natural rock
A bottle of starter bacteria, and some sort of anti-ammonia/chlorine/nitrate/nitrite stuff
This along with the Black Moor and a new, larger Shubunkin, completes my current setup. The 2.5 gallon tank they were in was killing them with ammonia that I couldn't get rid of, and so I felt that it would likely be better for the fish to just get into the new aquarium as fast as I could, keeping in mind temperature differences and such.
So far, they seem to be happier, although the Black Moor is swimming quite quickly up the side of the aquarium on occasion. It seems to be happy, but I worry because that's what I do. The Shubunkin, who seemed to be doing poorly in the 2.5 gallon tank, swimming vertically in a corner as though trying to get to the top for air or something, is currently happily hiding behind a plant, with the occasional short outing due to prodding from the Black Moor.
All in all, does it sound like this setup could work? Assuming I get regular water testings at the great local fish store about 10 minutes from my house, "A World of Fish" in Minneapolis.
Hello & welcome to the forum.
Congrats on the new awsome filter! One of the best filters they make!
I think the fish will be fine for a while, lots of water changes may be needed to keep the ammonia and nitrites under contol while the tank is cycling.
They may need more room as they grow, a 35 gal would give two full grown goldfish some room to move around. You could keep an eye out for a deal on a used tank from Craigslist. Sometimes you can find awsome deals.
Whats your plan for the small tank? It could make a nice home for a betta.
Good luck with the fish and new tank!
I was thinking of cycling the little tank fishless, and either using it as a sick-tank, or potentially for something like a betta or some smaller, less dirty fishies. It really is quite a nice little tank!
Here's a picture for those interested in seeing what I've got!
What would you recommend that I do, keeping in mind that the fish are already in the tank, and that I don't have a cycled tank to put them in while the new tank cycles?
I appreciate the advice, but you are coming off as a bit harsh, considering I'm new at this...
I have cycled quite a few tanks with fish and no deaths occurred.
I know you already spent alot of money on your setup, (FISH KEEPING CAN GET EXPENSIVE) but if you can buy one more thing, I would recommend buying an API freshwater testing kit.
It will save you daily trips to the fish store for test.
It will not take long to start getting ammonia reading. When doing a fish cycle, I try to keep ammonia under .25ppm. Maybe a week or two after the ammonia readings, you will start to get nitrite reading. I also try to keep nitrites under .25ppm.
Keeping the toxic ammonia and nitrites this low will be a lot of hard work for a while. May have to do 25% or 50% water changes everyday till the cycle kicks in, but this will inflict less stress on the fish and help them live through it.
The ammonia is the first to drop to zero, a week or two latter nitrites will drop to zero. Then you are on easy street!! After you have a cycled tank, weekly 25-50% water changes will keep them nice and healthy!
Also, your tank will cycle even with the water changes and keeping levels low. I have done it this way on a few tanks and all my tanks cycled in 6 weeks or less.
You say you are a musician. What do you do? Very interesting. I live with a musician that builds guitar amps for a living.
I vote you use the 2.5 gallon tank for Dwarf African Frogs....so charming they are and a pair would like that space!
but of course having a quarentine tank is immensly wise.
Thanks all for the advice! Unfortunately, I lost the Shubunkin ("Jack") last night, presumably due to the somewhat unhappy state he had been in in the previous tank. However, the Black Moor is now exhibiting odd, somewhat erratic behavior, and doesn't seem interested in eating the shelled/cooked pea I put in there for him. I'm worried that by the time the fish store opens and I can get the water tested (and the water testing kit, as recommended by Twistersmom), the fish will be gone. I realize somewhat morbidly that this would be an excellent time to cycle the tank fishless, but I'd really like to save the poor guy. I guess without a test kit, all I can do is hope (unless y'all think it would be OK to add some more de-ammonia stuff?)
Adding more de- ammonia stuff will not hurt, but if I have fish not acting healthy, I do a water changes. Clean water is the best meds for you fish.
Hopefully he is just sad and lonely. Keep us posted on the test results.
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