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veganchick 03-25-2009 05:00 PM

help! First SW tank!
 
Ok, so as a very delayed Christmas present from my friend I was given a chocolate chip starfish! I don't think my friend really knew that I don't know much about SW tanks... anyway, its in a 5g with some sand, a heater at 77 degrees, and a pH of 8.2.... and what the fish store called a SW filter? anyway, after some research I know that my tank is WAY TOO small.... Don't get mad at me for getting without researching... I didn't someone else got it for me without my knowing.... Whay do I need to feed my starfish, and what is their minimum tank size? right now my little guy in only 2ish inches.. anyway, sorry for not researching b4, but I can't really help that..... also, I know that CC Stars aren't reefsafe, so what would you reccomend I put in the tank so there isn't just sand? Also, In his tank there are .5 cups of salt per gallon, this is how much I was told to do.... is it correct? Thank you SOOOOOOOOO much for any help at all!
~veganchick~

Pasfur 03-25-2009 05:03 PM

V - You need to purchase a hydrometer to measure the specific gravity. This is how you determine the correct amount of salt. You want 1.023 to 1.024. Using 1/2 cup per gallon is close, but not correct. Temperature will impact the results.

I suggest adding 5 to 7 pounds of live rock. Make sure it is fully cured and has no odor when you purchase it. You could also add ONE small fish to such a setup. Cody would be good to provide some suggestions on this.

Good luck!!

Mark

veganchick 03-25-2009 09:39 PM

Thanks for all the help! I thought cc starfish ate small fish, ad inverts, but I may be wrong! so the 5g is large enough? thanks a ton! I'll purchase supplies 2mro..... I think it can wait till then... I have heard they are faairly hardy

Pasfur 03-26-2009 07:00 AM

I've heard rumors of the Chocolate Chip eating fish, but i've never had it to occur. Given that fish swim and the Chocolate Chip starfish crawls, it would be an interesting accomplishment, unless the fish was a very sessile species.

onefish2fish 03-26-2009 07:05 AM

now, a green serpent is a fish catcher, i could see a CC getting a scooter blenny or manderin but im not sure about active healthy fish. if you keep it well fed to it shouldnt have a reason to catch a fish.

veganchick 03-26-2009 06:11 PM

ok, cool! THanks guys! i'll post pics soon! I purchases 4 lbs of live rock, and I am thinking about getting a yellowtail blue damsel to keep with my starfish. I would LOVE to upgrade to a 15g (I know, still tiny, but I really don't have much room in my bedroom left) in the future, and get maybe another small fish (idk if this is possible) or starfish. I am really getting into this SW stuff. I'm kinda sad cc stars aren't reefsafe! Anyway, thank you everybody 4 ur advice, and sorr for all the newbie questions!

Cody 03-26-2009 06:28 PM

If you ever want any other SW fish, then no damsel. Any damsel.

To be honest, don't put a CC star with any fish or vice-versa. There are a ton of incidents that I know of that the CC star attacks fish, inverts, and corals.

Or you can get a Harlequin Shrimp. :lol:

veganchick 03-26-2009 06:49 PM

Ok, I guess no other fish for me. :( I would love a Harlequin Shrimp, but I heard that they prey on starfish, so I don't want any danger there.... Is there any fish or invert that I can be pretty sure my starfish will get along with in a 15g? or any other starfish maybe? clams? I really don't know much about salt water fish, like I said before, so plz don't critisize me if I am asking about something really obvious!

Cody 03-26-2009 06:58 PM

I was kidding about the Harley. Hence the smile. :redyay:

-No inverts EVER with a CC star.
-Don't even think about a clam etiher...
-No other Starfish
-No fish IMO.
-No corals.

It would be so much easier if you just traded it in at a LFS. They are not worth the hassle IMO (saying you can have reefs, fish, and inverts) and are best used as a food source (because they can regenerate limbs).

But knowing you, you will keep it. The best setup for it is a tank with rock, sand, the star, and the needed equipment.

veganchick 03-26-2009 07:23 PM

lol, you know me all too well! :) I'm a sucker for anything (short of plants) living! Thanks for the advice tho..... ur prly right, but I'm too stubborn to listen! I have Really dim lighting in the aqairum... Is this ok?

Also, On a different subject I was wanting some advice for coral and maybe a fish in a 5g reef tank. My mom is gonna let me set up a 5g brackish, 5g Freshwater, and 5g saltwater side by side in my living room with saltwater in the middle so it will be much different that the other two. For my brackish one I'm gonna do 2 bumblebee gobies, and some ghost shrimp. In y freshwater I am thinking maybe a school of lemon tetras, or some DPs.... I have no idea t all if there is really anything that can do well iin a 5g reef tank... Would any types of Clownfish work? They are very cool, and this is sort of one of my showcase tanks so I want it too look great! :) I'm prly getting anoyying with all my questions by now, but ur gonna have to put up with them! lol


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