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megphimu22 03-21-2009 10:21 AM

New Betta Help Please!
Ok, so I got a new betta on Thursday. He has been doing great; he's slowly becoming less timid and always comes to the front of the tank when he sees me. The problem is he's not eating. I have tried TetraColor Tropical Flakes (it's what my other betta eats) and a few rehydrated freeze dried brine shrimp. He acts like he's hungry and excited when I put the food in and he takes one, spits it out, takes a shrimp and acts like he's eating it, then spits it out. It's a repetitive cycle and I'm scared he won't get the right nutrition. I also tried the Tetra flakes that came with the tank as well as pellets I had from a previous betta. Nothing works. I am going to order a new filter off Petco and I was wondering what foods yall had success with. I'll try anything! I want to make sure he eats. He looks like a younger betta to me (he's pretty small) and I want him to grow and get bigger like my other one! (My other betta LOVES to eat, he eats a lot).

Now here's the info you have been wanting to ask through the whole post: :)
2.5 gallon tank with 2 fake plants and 2 places to "hide"
Temperature- goes between 78 & 82
Neutral pH
Negative for nitrates & nitrites
Soft water
Negative for ammonia

If I left anything off just ask! I haven't done water changes since I just got him Thursday (the tank had been cycling for about a week). The thing is, he acts hungry and goes for the food but it must not taste good since he spits it all out. Any food suggestions would be great!

Livelifelaughlove 03-21-2009 09:21 PM

might be easier if you put this in the betta forum, but usually if a betta spits out the food it is one of two things. 1, if the food is flakes, he just doesn't like it. 2. If the food is pellets, the pellets are to big. My bettas do it as well. Try to crush the food before you give it to them. Remember, their stomaches are only as big as their eyes, so imagine how small their throat is.

Cody 03-21-2009 09:38 PM

Did you use test strips or a liquid kit? No nitrates either means you have strips, a faulty kit, or havent completed a cycle.
What do you mean "the temperature goes between 78-82?" Do you have a heater?

Livelifelaughlove 03-21-2009 09:53 PM

I don't think they cycled their tank, Though its not really required with a betta.

and you realize (not cody) that a temp change of 5-6 degrees over night can kill your betta...?

Cody 03-21-2009 09:55 PM

Why is a betta so special that they don't need a cycled tank? Every fish needs a cycled tank.

Livelifelaughlove 03-21-2009 09:59 PM

ok ok , sorry they need a cycled tank...? I think i am to tired to go through all this...

Shadowcat0789 03-21-2009 10:49 PM

bettas are very hardy, there's a lot of controversy about bettas about if they can live happily in a bowl or not, if they should have a tank, blah blah blah, personally (and i'm typically not this blunt about things but i've had a sort of rough day and don't care if people get upset at my opinion) i think everyone should just get over themselves and trying to force thier opinions and beliefs on other people. I've had bettas live long healthy lives in bowls, and I've got a betta tank where i'm designing dividers that way i can keep multiple bettas in one tank. It's only a ten gallon and i'm sure there are people wanting to yell at me and say i'm over crowding it but like i said earlier, that's your POV and opinion.

The thing with bettas is that they aren't strong swimmers and they like slow-not moving water, which is why filters are hit and miss in my opinion (which is still just my opinion!) and why bowls are so popular. Bettas do need a steady temp of 76-79 for year round comfort and health and 80 to 82 as breeding temps.

As far as the feeding issue I would try freeze dried blood worms. Bettas LOVE blood worms, and if the freeze dried versions aren't working for ya then buy some frozen ones (cubes are very convenient), thaw out a small portion of them, like three or four individual worms, and try feeding him those. The best way i've found to do this is to get a small shallow bowl or something, fill it with water from the tank and hold onto one side of the cube and kinda wiggle it in the water. the cube will start to thaw out and once you have the desired amount of food thawed out then you can place the un-used portion back in the freezer. If you have other fish tanks then you can thaw some out for them as well.

Something else to think about is that maybe he is eating it but the bits that he's swallowing are so small that you aren't noticing them. Either way I'd say that the blood worms would be better for the betta overall. He is VERY pretty by the way. I have one like that but he ended up turning entirely that shade of purple which is really pretty.

Sorry for the tirade but I hope my info helped!

megphimu22 03-21-2009 11:03 PM

I know that temperature changes are not good for the betta- I didn't mean it happens overnight... just depends on the temperature outside and in the house. And yes Cody, I do have a heater. Right now it is currently 79 degrees. Yes, I also have a filter but am thinking about switching to a smaller filter because the one the tank came with is HUGE. The tank has cycled for about a week. I didn't mean to put no nitrates, my bad... My brain is a bit fried due to the fact I have been studying straight since 9 am for a test (I'm in nursing school, ugh!)!! I just checked the nitrate level again because I forgot what it was earlier... it's 4... so that's ok, right?

megphimu22 03-21-2009 11:04 PM

and shadowcat, thanks! i think he's pretty too! he's been changing colors since he's gotten in used to his new home but I hope he stays similar to the color he is now! and thanks for the advice! i do give him rehydrated blood worms but he spits those out too... i may try to frozen ones thawed out... i'll try anything at this point!! i'm hoping it's just because he's not used to his home and new food yet...

Cody 03-22-2009 12:30 AM

Water sounds fine, then.

As stated, very his diet with everything. This means frozen and freezedried bloodworms (not as a staple diet), daphnia, etc, and pellets being a staple.

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