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spreadtoothinly 07-07-2013 04:31 PM

Help set up new tank, and id a few parts.
 
I just got a used 20 gal. long fish tank with some parts. :lol: It came with two boxes that originally packaged filters, but I don't know what kind of filter it actually is (it wasn't in the box).

Any Help would be appreciated!

spreadtoothinly 07-07-2013 04:34 PM

The two boxes were a Marineland biowheel power filter (what I think it is) and Aqueon quiet flow.
Here is the filter
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mt-mom/9231499703/http://www.flickr.com/photos/mt-mom/9231499703/http://www.flickr.com/photos/mt-mom/9231499703/
And here is the heater, (I think... or is it just a thermometer...it plugs in, and this is the only thing that could be heater, and I know they had a heater because they had tropical algae wafers...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mt-mom/9231499835/http://www.flickr.com/photos/mt-mom/9231499835/
(I couldn't get the attach pics thing to work so...)
Also, should I boil the decor and reuse it? Same with the sand substrate? I plan on getting cories so I need sand anyway...
Thanks for any advice!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mt-mom/9231499835/

spreadtoothinly 07-08-2013 05:30 PM

I've started cleaning the tank! (here's a pic so far: Fish Tank | Flickr - Photo Sharing!) So far all I've done is taken out the sand... but hey, it's a start! I've also tried to figure out how the hood goes... There is a hole for a filter and a heater, but the filter (I'm positive it's the biowheel, and it filters 200 gph so I think I'm good for that) doesn't fit in the hole... It looks like it was a two part hood, but we only have one part (I'm thinking that they only used that one, because of the filter not fitting the hole). Is this OK???? Should I cover the top with a towel or something to prevent jumping?
I know I should clean the tank with bleach water for bacteria/viruses, but does anyone know how to get rid of mineral deposits? (Image here: Fish tank mineral deposits. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!)
I'm planning to reuse the sand and decor they had in the tank, I know you should boil it, but for how long?
As far as water levels what I think I have is a pH of around 8 and DGH of about 7. But here's the link to the webpage with the chart so you can look at it for yourself http://www.flagstaff.az.gov/index.aspx?nid=98. (I hope this is the right chart...)
As for fish I plan on having- I plan to have 6 cherry barbs, 6 cories (depending on the variety, I'm not yet sure of what I'm getting, I'll probably get the minimum, this is what I read in general is the min. suggestions on what type?) and 13 neon tetras. For plants I plan to get java moss, water sprite, and pigmy chain sword. What do y'all think? I'm more than open to suggestions!

NewFishFiend 07-09-2013 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by spreadtoothinly (Post 2499921)
I've started cleaning the tank! (here's a pic so far: Fish Tank | Flickr - Photo Sharing!) So far all I've done is taken out the sand... but hey, it's a start! I've also tried to figure out how the hood goes... There is a hole for a filter and a heater, but the filter (I'm positive it's the biowheel, and it filters 200 gph so I think I'm good for that) doesn't fit in the hole... It looks like it was a two part hood, but we only have one part (I'm thinking that they only used that one, because of the filter not fitting the hole). Is this OK???? Should I cover the top with a towel or something to prevent jumping?
I know I should clean the tank with bleach water for bacteria/viruses, but does anyone know how to get rid of mineral deposits? (Image here: Fish tank mineral deposits. | Flickr - Photo Sharing!)
I'm planning to reuse the sand and decor they had in the tank, I know you should boil it, but for how long?
As far as water levels what I think I have is a pH of around 8 and DGH of about 7. But here's the link to the webpage with the chart so you can look at it for yourself City of Flagstaff Official Website - Water Quality. (I hope this is the right chart...)
As for fish I plan on having- I plan to have 6 cherry barbs, 6 cories (depending on the variety, I'm not yet sure of what I'm getting, I'll probably get the minimum, this is what I read in general is the min. suggestions on what type?) and 13 neon tetras. For plants I plan to get java moss, water sprite, and pigmy chain sword. What do y'all think? I'm more than open to suggestions!

pH said between 7.7-8.2 but for some reason I couldn't find the hardness on the chart. might be called something else lol.

No idea what to clean the tank with. Ive bought mine new and always just rinsed with warm water. With the hoods, I know with my 20 gallon tank that we had to cut the plastic part with a dremel so my hob filter would fit on. but for the rest of my tanks i've thrown the hoods out and bought glass tops (they are kind expensive though). I prefer the look of the glass tops. All my tanks have a space between the top and the back of the tank for the filter to sit in and I've never had a fish jump out. I read somewhere that fish usually jump out of tanks when their water conditions aren't right. I'm sure fish jump for other reasons too, but I've never had the problem.

I have java moss and java fern in my 4 gallon betta tank. I am really bad with that lighting schedule and leave the blue LEDs on lots of time. My plants are still doing just fine. they are a hardy plant. Look under the reference material here and make sure you plants will fit to your water. Some plants like soft water, some like hard water, etc.

spreadtoothinly 07-09-2013 02:52 PM

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pH said between 7.7-8.2 but for some reason I couldn't find the hardness on the chart. might be called something else lol.
I don't remember exactly where I found it... at some pieces in the website (probably FAQ) there was one question that said something like "What is our water hardness" and the answer said "Our water hardness varies from 25 ppm to 325 ppm depending on the source of production. The average throughout the system is 125 to 200 ppm (7.3 to 11.7 grains per gallon). ".

Oh, lighting... right now it's a single fluorescent that has a "cool" bulb, 20 wats. Is this enough for a planted tank?

NewFishFiend 07-09-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spreadtoothinly (Post 2507041)
I don't remember exactly where I found it... at some pieces in the website (probably FAQ) there was one question that said something like "What is our water hardness" and the answer said "Our water hardness varies from 25 ppm to 325 ppm depending on the source of production. The average throughout the system is 125 to 200 ppm (7.3 to 11.7 grains per gallon). ".

Oh, lighting... right now it's a single fluorescent that has a "cool" bulb, 20 wats. Is this enough for a planted tank?

What is the kelvin rating? Prolly something like 5000 or 6500. Should say on bulb.

spreadtoothinly 07-09-2013 07:24 PM

It says 9K?!?!

NewFishFiend 07-09-2013 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spreadtoothinly (Post 2509201)
It says 9K?!?!

I would think u would be okay for some plants but im no expert. Byron would be my resource for that. Lighting is a hard subject for me and i really havent fully grasped the concept of freshwater lighting. Marine lighting is much easier imo lol

Byron 07-09-2013 09:01 PM

Fluorescent tubes lose intensity as they burn. They need replacing regularly, long before they would actually burn out, or the reduced intensity will not be sufficient for plants and algae will have a field day. As this was a used system, I would replace the tube and not worry about what the present one is.

I will assume T8, as opposed to T5. These each have their own fixture. It should say on one end of the tube. "T" refers to the diameter in 8ths of an inch, so T8 is 8/8 or 1 inch diameter, and T5 is 5/8 (thus thinner). Your replacement tube should be the same length (probably a 24 inch tube, as the 20g long tank is 30 inches in length). Take the present tube with you to be sure.

You want a tube with a Kelvin rating around 6500K. With just the one tube over this tank, I would get one of the better makes, a Life-Glo or a ZooMed UltraSun. Make sure it is exactly one of these.

I have the Life-Glo over my single tube tanks, and I replace them every 12-18 months. I wouldn't go longer than 18 months.

Byron.

spreadtoothinly 07-09-2013 09:20 PM

Alright! I'm going to PetSmart on Sat. anyway to get new filter media, thermometer (they had a stick-on-outside one, but I've read those are inaccurate), etc. so I'll be sure to check for one of these! Certainly wouldn't wan to add to the algae problem, especially with a "new" tank! *makes note to "clean up" all my motes BEFORE going to lps*
Thanks a bunch for replying so quickly!


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