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Sj45 02-21-2009 12:39 PM

Could I get away w/ no filter on a 10 gallon beta tank?
 
I was wondering if I could skip a filter and just do like 25% water changes weekly...?

Cody 02-21-2009 12:45 PM

Why skip a filter? I realize that "they are bettas, they don't need filters." If you don't get a filter, its more like 25% DAILY. Bettas are the same as every other fish and need the same basic care. Getting a filter will make your life, and their life, much easier in the long run.

Sj45 02-21-2009 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cody (Post 174124)
Why skip a filter? I realize that "they are bettas, they don't need filters." If you don't get a filter, its more like 25% DAILY. Bettas are the same as every other fish and need the same basic care. Getting a filter will make your life, and their life, much easier in the long run.

Because they don't like water flow...and filters cost money.

You do understand, betta's sit in like 1 cup of water for months, no filter, right? So 25% daily...would be insane.

aunt kymmie 02-21-2009 12:54 PM

I'm not sure that I'd say they didn't like some flow, just not extreme current. That's what I find with my two bettas. One will even hang out in the current. Can you check craigslist for a filter? I've found some pretty screaming deals there. Just a thought...

Cody 02-21-2009 12:56 PM

Yes, I realize that. It is the most inhumane thing.

If money is a problem, buy a used one.
If flow is a problem, then purchase a filter for like a 5G tank, or the low-flow ones for 10G. There are many models that you can use.

I think bettas love some sort of water flow, but not extreme. Every single betta I have had does better in a filtered, heated environment. The females play in the flow.

Kim 02-21-2009 12:59 PM

With a 10 gallon tank it would just be easier to get a filter and cycle the tank (fishless of course). A cheap filter will provide area for bacteria to colonize and it doesn't have to be a great one because like you stated bettas don't like a lot of water flow. If you don't get a filter you would have to do 100% water changes to really clean the gravel so ammonia doesn't build up, and that would be pretty hard with a 10 gallon.

And a betta sitting in one cup of water for a month is just barely surviving. I would not use that as an example because that betta is obviously going to have a short and horrible quality life.

Oh, I forgot to add that without some water flow your tank will have temperature extremes because the water around the heater will heat up and it will turn off leaving the rest of the tank icy cold. Believe me, I once had a filter malfunction in my 10 gallon tank and the water on the top of the tank as well as around the heater was warm, but when I stuck my hand in to fix things the bottom of the tank was frigid! I also have a betta that loves to play in the flow, so some water flow is good just not a high flow because bettas really aren't the best swimmers.

Sj45 02-21-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kim (Post 174137)
With a 10 gallon tank it would just be easier to get a filter and cycle the tank (fishless of course). A cheap filter will provide area for bacteria to colonize and it doesn't have to be a great one because like you stated bettas don't like a lot of water flow. If you don't get a filter you would have to do 100% water changes to really clean the gravel so ammonia doesn't build up, and that would be pretty hard with a 10 gallon.

And a betta sitting in one cup of water for a month is just barely surviving. I would not use that as an example because that betta is obviously going to have a short and horrible quality life.

Oh, I forgot to add that without some water flow your tank will have temperature extremes because the water around the heater will heat up and it will turn off leaving the rest of the tank icy cold. Believe me, I once had a filter malfunction in my 10 gallon tank and the water on the top of the tank as well as around the heater was warm, but when I stuck my hand in to fix things the bottom of the tank was frigid! I also have a betta that loves to play in the flow, so some water flow is good just not a high flow because bettas really aren't the best swimmers.

Alright, I was just wondering because at the stores you will never see filters. I'll buy one, thanks.

AmyK 02-21-2009 08:12 PM

SJ45 - I bought a 5 gallon set up and I can't use this particular filter that came with it because my ADF's will get stuck in there. It's never been used and still in the plastic wrap. Is your tank bigger than ten gallons?It's called "Whisper Micro Filter". I've been trying to give it to my niece so she will upgrade her Betta's little bowl, but she doesn't want it.....

If you want it it's yours

FordMan 02-21-2009 08:38 PM

man a basic 2 dollar sponge filter w/ air pump of course would be perfect

syrinx 02-22-2009 05:21 PM

walmart has a small internal power filter for $10 that should be sufficient for a single betta

To answer the original question, yes, you could get away with it but a filter would be better.


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