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Jaysn 12-29-2006 12:45 AM

Bumblebee gobies and F8 puffers
 
I'm in the process of setting a 20 gallon tank up for my F8, and would like to put some bumblebee gobies in with it. How many would be the right number for that size tank, with live plants?

Lupin 12-29-2006 12:53 AM

I most definitely will not mix puffers with other fish. Aside from aggression, they are quite nippy.:blink: Your bumblebee gobies will not last long in a tank with a figure-eight puffer.

Most puffer keepers are purists and will tell you not to mix puffers with any fish other than by themselves.

Jaysn 12-29-2006 01:27 AM

Really? I've read on several different places that bumblebees are ok to keep with them. There is a guppy fry in with him now, and several ghost shrimp that he seemingly has no interest in.

bettababy 12-29-2006 01:52 AM

May I first ask what the salinity/specific gravity is in the tank?

What you are asking is not impossible, but I surely wouldn't attempt it in 20 gallons. 55 - 75 gallons, yes... but I am wondering about your salt content because of the plants you named as growing in the tank. I know from experience that hornwort and wisteria are sensitive to salt content in the water, and when the spg gets to where the fish will need it, the plants die quickly.

IF the tank were large enough, I could teach you how to keep them together without too much issue, but in a 20 gallon, I agree with Blue, you don't want to mix any other fish in with the F8. There are a limited number of animals available for brackish water tanks, the few that would mix with the F8 would all need a much larger tank to do so, along with lots of honeycomb rocks with small holes that are deep enough for the gobys, and tons of silk plants for hiding places, etc etc...

If you desire to keep your F8 with other fish, I would say it would be easier if you slowly took the fish over to full saltwater conditions, got into a larger tank, and then started choosing. You'll find more saltwater fish compatible with the F8 than you will brackish water fish.

I hope this has helped, and I'm still interested in knowing the salinity/specific gravity of this tank....

Jaysn 12-29-2006 01:18 PM

It's pretty low, 1.004-1.006. The hornwort is gone and the wisteria is going, I need to update my sig. I had read that they were brackish plants, but they didn't acclimate well.

Nick 12-29-2006 01:19 PM

could you send me a pic of your 55 gallon? Or post it on here ? :D

Gage 02-18-2008 12:42 AM

i have Bumblebee gobies with my figure 8 with Zero problems, and this is in a 10g tank.

your experience may differ from mine, but it worked quite well for me, though my puffer wont even eat a guppy lol, likes his bloodworms and brine shrimp (he is 3")

bettababy 02-18-2008 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Gage
i have Bumblebee gobies with my figure 8 with Zero problems, and this is in a 10g tank.

your experience may differ from mine, but it worked quite well for me, though my puffer wont even eat a guppy lol, likes his bloodworms and brine shrimp (he is 3")

I assure you, this is only temporary. The puffer alone will outgrow the 10 gallon... when water quality becomes poor it usually leads to problems quick for the bumblebees. When the puffer gets bigger it also will lead to problems with territory.
Shrimp are a natural food sources, so things like ghost shrimp would also be only temporary. As for the guppy... give it time, let the puffer mature a bit, things change...

bettababy 02-18-2008 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaysn
It's pretty low, 1.004-1.006. The hornwort is gone and the wisteria is going, I need to update my sig. I had read that they were brackish plants, but they didn't acclimate well.

Salinity should be about 1.009 for the puffers. If its too low for too long then their organs have problems functioning. As for plants, hornwort and wisteria are not able to survive brackish water (as you found out). If you are determined to go live I would suggest java fern and anubias to get you started. How did you go through the process of acclimation? Acclimating plants to brackish conditions is not like acclimating a fish to a tank. To do it successfully it will take months of keeping them in a freshwater tank and slowly adding salt every week until you bring your spg/salinity up to where the main tank is at, where its safe for the fish. If it's not done slow enough the plants will die, and this goes for any plants.

Gage 02-18-2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bettababy
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gage
i have Bumblebee gobies with my figure 8 with Zero problems, and this is in a 10g tank.

your experience may differ from mine, but it worked quite well for me, though my puffer wont even eat a guppy lol, likes his bloodworms and brine shrimp (he is 3")

I assure you, this is only temporary. The puffer alone will outgrow the 10 gallon... when water quality becomes poor it usually leads to problems quick for the bumblebees. When the puffer gets bigger it also will lead to problems with territory.
Shrimp are a natural food sources, so things like ghost shrimp would also be only temporary. As for the guppy... give it time, let the puffer mature a bit, things change...

ok, the figure 8 puffer is full grown, 3" is their max size, you cant assure me anything, cuz all fish have their own specific personalities, so please dont try and tell me different, im giving my Personal experience, and i know multiple people who have done just as i have with no problems, this tank has been this way for 1 year now, my friends was set up like this for 3.

so for you to tell me this can NOT work is BS, ive fed him ghost shrimp, he loves them, but i feel bad for the shrimp when hes tearing it aprt, so i stick with bloodworms and brine shrimp.

he really like meal worms to.


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