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FishKid91 02-15-2009 12:31 AM

Would this work?
 
I have a 10gal tank and I'd like to start it with salt water. I'd like to add live sand, live rock, a shrimp and a clown fish. I have a HOB filter and a heater. I know I need/should get a power head for it to move the water around. If the fish/shrimp survives and it works out right I'd like to move up to a 20gal. What would I need in order for the for the HOB filter to work? Also what kind of lighting would I need if all I had was the live rock/sand fish/shrimp? What would be the best way to set it up on a low buget (just turned 18 and still trying to find a job) until I can get more money?

onefish2fish 02-15-2009 02:27 AM

i wouldnt use the HOB filter. yes it could work if you wish to properly clean it daily. i would rather see enough quality pourus live rock, a power head, 3-4inch sand bed and a very good schedule of doing water changes.
for this setup a reg old flouresent light fixture would work fine.
i think your best bet would be to do more research while you save money instead of rush into it now, ask questions and loose money. if you plan exactly what equipment you'll need to buy and learn about maintnance and how to properly do things you should have more success, making it more fun and less stressful on the wallet. i would even look into local reefing clubs in your area. my club is $12 a year and they have monthly meetings, a chance to buy used equipment cheap and to meet some great people with the same interests.
research and asking questions is key.

Pasfur 02-15-2009 09:48 AM

Agreed. You might want to run the HOB filter empty, just for water flow. This would take up less space than a powerhead.

If you are not going to use any type of protein skimmer, I would suggest using activated carbon in the HOB. Just put carbon inside a mesh bag (pantie hose work well) and drop the bag into the HOB. Don't use the filter floss. The carbon will help remove organic acids from the water.

FishKid91 02-15-2009 12:39 PM

I'm not getting into it just yet. Still trying to find things out. Since you say use the filter as a power head and just pust carbon in it. What would I use as a filter? There is a couple of SW fish stores in my town that I'm going to check on about liverock/sand.

Cody 02-15-2009 12:42 PM

Live rock and a DSB (deep sand bed) is your main filtration, along with water flow and weekly water changes.

You will still need a powerhead or two, even with the HOB. HOB's are generally used (ones that are run empty) for splashdown purposes to keep scum on the surface, It does add flow, but not enough to replace a powerhead.

FishKid91 02-15-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cody (Post 171803)
Live rock and a DSB (deep sand bed) is your main filtration, along with water flow and weekly water changes.

You will still need a powerhead or two, even with the HOB. HOB's are generally used (ones that are run empty) for splashdown purposes to keep scum on the surface, It does add flow, but not enough to replace a powerhead.


Ok now I see what you are saying. I see you have a 10gal reef, how much did that cost to set up with just the powerheads, sand, and rock? What power head should be used for a 10gal?

Cody 02-15-2009 12:53 PM

Do you mean for a FOWLR setup? Please note that I am not adding in my lights, corals, fish, water, dosing materials, test kits, cleaning supplies, etc.

-25lbs of very very good LR (that was cured): $150-200
-20lbs of Sand: $20
-Powerheads: $50/$60

In a 10G, I would do two Koralia Nanos, or a Koralia Nano with something else that gives off less than 200gph. A KNano gives off 240gph.

Pasfur 02-15-2009 05:25 PM

Wow Cody, you are asking for a lot on this little project.

I would go with 10 - 15 pounds of porous low density live rock. Fiji rock would be great. One small powerhead, such as a MaxiJet 250, would be sufficient.

You want 3'' of aragonite sand. A single 25 pound bag should be plenty.

Cody 02-15-2009 05:30 PM

Oh, I thought he was asking what I bought. My fault if I misunderstood.

onefish2fish 02-15-2009 05:33 PM

i guess everyone has their own setup because i would do a 10 gallon with a 10 sump with a custom stand to have one tank ontop of the other and the refugium have its own little view window. use t5s to light it, an aquaC skimmer,20-30lbs quality live rock,4'' sand in the refugium part of the sump,painted black background, two nano Ks and jam pack it with coral. i think i would stock it with sexy shrimp and a goby/randalli pistol shrimp pair.


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