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cerius 02-02-2009 10:54 PM

Hrmmm...haven't been around in a while so here's an update:

For one, Balzak, the betta died. He was 3 and a half years old.....I woke up on thursday to seem him a little lethargic and hanging out at the bottom of the I quarantined him to test water parameters in his amonia..nitrates, nitrites....But to be on the safe side, I kept him in quarantine for the night. Friday I tested the water again to find nothing out of the ordinary and Bernard...the snail seemed fine and dandy in the tank. I had to leave for the weekend, and since the betta was being more active I figured it wouldn't hurt if he was in his normal tank. I came back from the weekend trip to find that he was dead. ....
Ugh and bernard munchin on him as well :( ...Is three and a half years a good life? I'm not sure what Balzak was afflicted with, but whatever it was struck fast and hard....

On a lighter note.....from last time, Bernard was a new addition with his feelers getting bit off.....for the few months that they knew eachother, the two quickly became good friends and the betta would hover above the snail seemingly protecting him/her. The feelers grew back and Bernard quickly munched up all the plants. I've just recently restocked aquarium with more plants only to find an entire colony of trumpets/ponds/...looks like...mystery? Three distinctly different shaped shells, but much too small now to find out what....There are also two baby water skimmers? And some lilly pads....The plants gave me a lot of "goodies", but I'm a little overwhelmed as to what to think of it. Bernard has also increased his shell size...with a little more than 1/2 inch of new shell growth. A question that I'd like to ask: Is it normal to have a visible "line" between old and new growth? I think it was caused by his growth slowing down at the petstore. I've taken lupin's advice on account of the new growth being "weak" and gave Bernard a orange tums to make him feel better about his loss....He didn't seem to notice it at all and it soon quickly dissolved. Today I tried again with cherry, and he attacked it savagely! He then proceeded on to his sea-cow ways and started chowing down on this set of stocked plants.....

To Lupin: I went to the petstore where I purchased Bernard and they were indeed Apple Snails. It didn't make much sense to me though...This snail has really taken a likening to the plants I stick in there! On the other hand, this tank never seems to have any algae in it....even though I've had it for 4 years! My girlfriend thinks it gets eaten up to soon....but I can't be so sure.

cerius 02-02-2009 10:58 PM

One last question: What is that appendage thing that sort of looks like poop crossed with a phallus? :p

Lupin 02-03-2009 01:50 AM

Your snail sounds like a Pomacea canaliculata. If not, the other species would be paludosa (very rare in the trade unless collected in the Florida everglades), insularum (canaliculata complex) or haustrum. Do you have pics of the shell for identification? Canas are the most commonly available of the plant eating apple snails and can be mistaken with mystery snails (Pomacea diffusa) to the untrained eye. Yours sound like either a cana or insularum. Both are very aggressive eaters which is why I don't like to mix the canaliculata complex with other specie due to their feeding habits.

Canas are not compatible with plants. They will eat anything edible in their path. I'll test the hornworts if they're compatible but these have already damaged several of my plants. I have not tested Java ferns, anubias and hornworts yet.

The cherry flavored Tums..I always labeled it as "strawberry". Either way, I've tried four flavored and the pink ones get the most attention from hundreds of my apple snails. Others in chronological order: orange, lemon and then lime.

As for the shell growth, that's normal due to the changes in water conditions. The new shell growth tends to be very weak because the snail is growing rather quickly for the shell to thicken. In this case, lower the temperature to 74 degrees Fahrenheit to slow down the growth and allow the shell to thicken.

Lupin 02-03-2009 01:57 AM

Here are my canas. See if Bernard looks the same as yours.

Little cana on his favorite chair. Ignore the pink eggs. They were mauled over by the babies that they fell to the tank. :rofl:

Smallest must have hatched sometime last week or was it two weeks ago? The other three were last month.

Spire angle.


Finger sucker. Nom nom nom...

Smaller female. She laid eggs as I had expected from her behavior.

cerius 02-03-2009 09:50 PM

Bernard is the same snail I posted about identified him on there as a diffusa:

...I'll post pictures here after fringe is over :) Lupin, do you have any suggestions for aquariums? I'm considering an Eclipse 12 gallon, but I'm unsure if this would be the best route....

Lupin 02-03-2009 10:02 PM

The stripes and spire length threw me off so I thought it was a diffusa but it seems I was wrong about the identity.:? You mentioned it keeps chowing down every plant you have. Diffusas don't do that. Hang on...The spire in this pic looks sunken so this seems a cana.

As for the tank, why not a 20g long?

cerius 02-05-2009 12:21 AM

Excuse the mess....Bernard's not a very clean eater...tums all over:

YouTube - Bernard goes exploring!

YouTube - More of bernard...

20 gallon is a little big...I was looking for something that wouldn't need a whole heck of a lot of maitenance....

Lupin 02-05-2009 12:24 AM

Cana indeed. lol..Nice calcium pile.:lol:

cerius 02-05-2009 11:32 AM

Can I give him tums daily? He likes the tropical smoothies.

Lupin 02-05-2009 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by cerius (Post 168959)
Can I give him tums daily? He likes the tropical smoothies.

Yes. I give mine daily.:wink:

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