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diverduck 02-01-2009 11:18 PM

Angelfish question
Is it cruel to separate a "courted" angelfish couple?
They are starting to display the mating rituals, and I cannot have angelfish babies, I don't have the space.
There are 3 angelfish in the tank, two males and one female,
one of the males is not interested at all in the female, but one male is starting to protect her from other fish, and has attacked one of my sharks for swimming past her.
I cannot have this sort of aggression in my tank and I have removed the "love-bird" gentlemen for the safety of my other fish.
Is this cruel to do to the angelfish?
Will one angelfish be okay, alone, in a tank? or should I move the female into the tank with him?
Responses ASAP will be best. thank you

aunt kymmie 02-01-2009 11:55 PM

Hi Diverduck. Welcome to the forum. What size is your tank and what other inhabitants (besides the shark) are in the tank??

diverduck 02-02-2009 09:30 AM

Thanks for the reply aunt kymmie.
I moved the pair to their own tank for now... just to get aggression down.
in the tank is bala sharks, tetras, mollies, gouramis, and plecos...
i am upgrading tanks in about a month...... right now its a 30 gallon, in a month its a 75
the 2 other angelfish are in TEMPORARY housing in a 10 gallon...

aunt kymmie 02-02-2009 12:45 PM

From everything I've read Angels are famous for being terrible parents first, second and third time spawnings. They eat their own eggs & fry the first few spawnings. You also have other fish in there that would eat the eggs or fry so I'm not sure I'd be too worried about being over run with angelfish.

It seems you've done what you can as far as the aggression and have a long term plan for managing it. If I'm not mistaken a lone angel will be fine on its own. Someone else will have to confirm this.

diverduck 02-02-2009 02:59 PM

Hello again aunt kymmie,
I was never aware when I first started my fish keeping hobby that angelfish were cichlids. None of the fish stores informed me of this...
I was unaware of the "male to female" ratio that existed.....
I am at a loss for what to do now.
The two angelfish - the pair - in the temporary home were not swimming and not eating. I tested the water today - and even though the filter was being used in the main aquarium, and the rocks and ornaments had been cycled - there was a nitrite spike.... I removed the angels from that tank because I didn't want them to die.
I am not sure if I want to give away the lone angel.
He has always been my favourite of the two marbles... and I feel as if the aggressive male would cause more problems then the mellow male.
A friend agreed to take one of the male angels, or I could see if my LFS will take one in exchange for a younger female.
I am at a loss at what to do, and do not want to lose another fish, however.. at the current time there are no extra tanks to use for a temporary housing - the other tank need to recycle again...

Any extra advice?
Is there anything else I can do to calm the male down?
again, I don't want to lose any fish :(

willow 02-02-2009 03:22 PM

i don't think you are going to be very lucky here :( sorry.
the agression will carry on.perhaps you could exchange them to the LFS or a freind perhaps.
if it was nitrate in the water reading and the Amonia was 0 and the nitrite 0 then water change
would have bought the levels with a safe zone ?

DavidZ 02-03-2009 10:45 AM

I don't think the 10Gl is enough, I have 3 (one pair and one smaller ML) angels in a community tank 55Gl and a pair in 65GL, you need to have a bunch of tall plants for other fish to hide when a pair develops or keep them separate.

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