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zachhay11 01-17-2009 03:46 PM

dead yellow tail damsel and enginear goby acting strange!
 
okay a little while ago my yellow tail damsel died and he wasnt acting weird before he just died! and i had him for over a year so i didnt think much of it. a small loose. then this morning my enginear goby was swimming weird he keeps swimming on the surface. and sticking his nose in the air. i also have 2 clowns. and no one has been eating very well i dont think. i really need help quick!

onefish2fish 01-17-2009 04:04 PM

what size tank, how much flow, what do you feed, whats your exact water params (ammonia, nitrite, nitrate,pH,SG,alk,calcium,mag,temp) FOWLR or reef, how often do you water change, how much?

zachhay11 01-17-2009 04:19 PM

its a 20 gallon PH is 7.7 nitrite is 0.4 and amonia is .0. the temp was cold. i turned the heater on. fish only. I feed them a frozen mix. for omnovors. thats all the info i got sorry.

onefish2fish 01-17-2009 05:11 PM

a few things, with a nitrite reading this means your tank has not fully cycled yet. your going to want to mix up a decent amount of salt water (outside of the tank) to preform water changes. you dont know your SG?! (sg=specific gravity)
is it possible to return the fish to the store for store credit? i honestly think you need more reading and research to approach this properly to offer the best interest for the livestock. please feel free to ask any questions.

zachhay11 01-17-2009 09:10 PM

oh specific gravity! oh yes i'll give that to u a little later i'm not at my tank now although i believe its a tad bit high i havent yet added water and evaperation has taken an inch or 2. and are u sure its not cycled yet because it has been set up for some time now. about 6 months

onefish2fish 01-17-2009 09:21 PM

well, if your having nitrite readings your tank is not cycled yet. it goes ammonia, nitrite, then nitrate. it is possible to have a "mini cycle" esp from overfeeding, decaying fish and so forth

darrelljonesdc 01-17-2009 09:37 PM

you should check all levels with a glass tube testing kit,you will have to do a water change to lower your nitrite levels and ammoina if you have nitrite problrms then ammonia follows dont feed your fish for a few days and make sure your protein skimmer is working proper if you dont have one you should get one. another thing dont place your hands in your water when dirty lotion, dish washing liquids etc,check water condition daily a assume small water changes until your at 0 nitrite

onefish2fish 01-17-2009 09:58 PM

it goes ammonia, then nitrite then nitrate.

if your going to get a protien skimmer check reviews before buying, some are garbage and some are golden.

Kellsindell 01-18-2009 01:07 AM

If you do multiple waterchanges it'll cause your Nitrite to take longer to cycle out of the tank. Now if it's a Nitrate issue then that'll be fine. I doubt the nitrate would kill your fish or cause your goby to start acting wierd

When was the last time you topped your tank off. That could very well be the issue. In smaller tanks, when you evap a small amount of water say .5in, the salinity goes up significantly. If you have evap'd almost 2in then your salinity is going to be sky high. Please top your tank off daily or use an auto top off kit. Online is cheeper then at a LFS. www.autotopoff.com is a good place to start. I pump water into the tank rather then use a top off, but it does get topped daily and in a small tank, it needs to occur more often.

onefish2fish 01-18-2009 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellsindell (Post 164532)
If you do multiple waterchanges it'll cause your Nitrite to take longer to cycle out of the tank. Now if it's a Nitrate issue then that'll be fine. I doubt the nitrate would kill your fish or cause your goby to start acting wierd

this is 100% true granted they are in acceptable range. in a FOWLR i would personally not let them exceed 10-15 (20max) ppm but all depending on species kept.


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