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Lupin 01-06-2009 05:16 AM

Does anyone feed their apple snails meat? (Read before voting)
 
It tends to be very unusual for a snail to turn on a very healthy fish for food. As absurd as it sounded which I previously also felt before it became a horrible reality after I discovered my dojo and kuhli loaches missing, I'd like to know if anyone has fed their snails with meat and observed any attempted cannibalistic tendencies (not counting the opportunity to eat the dead snails which they pretty much do as they are scavengers). My own snails get vegetables, extra aquarium plants (for canas only), calcium pills, commercial foods and snail jello only.

Feeding meat will be referred to as feeding fresh white or red meat to the snails such as chicken, beef, pork, salmon, tuna, etc. This will include bloodworms, tubifex worms and any live or frozen foods. Protein based fish foods such as pellets will not count as feeding them meat as the taste is not always the same. If it were not the insufficient protein load, it could only be their behavior triggered by the presence of the meat.

Those with assassin snails (they're not even apples) will not count. They're predatory enough towards other snails without meat being shoved under their noses. I intend to keep this thread for research purposes as much as increase awareness against feeding the snails meat.

Thanks!

SinCrisis 01-06-2009 12:55 PM

mine eats leftover frozen bloodworms when i feed them to my fish as a treat. My apple snail once caught a hatchet fish, i dont know how, since the hatchet was perfectly healthy the night before and in the norming was on teh gravel witht he snail wrapped around it.

Lupin 01-06-2009 07:58 PM

I believe the hatchet could have been asleep or inactive. The apple snail seized its chance by climbing on anything and drop right on target towards the fish. Their foot leaves slime secretion which is sticky so they are able to latch on anything that cannot escape quickly. What species is this apple snail?

SinCrisis 01-07-2009 01:22 AM

no idea, all i know is that it doesn't eat my plants and it was labeled as golden mystery snail.

Lupin 01-07-2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SinCrisis (Post 161599)
no idea, all i know is that it doesn't eat my plants and it was labeled as golden mystery snail.

That's very unusual for a P. diffusa. Normally, these do not go after meat especially a live fish. This could have been triggered by your feeding routine involving bloodworms.

SinCrisis 01-08-2009 01:58 AM

well this actually happened before i started feeding bloodworms. Also, my snail has been behaving strangely lately. Normally its very lazy. But after that hatchet fish incident, the snail has been moving nonstop. the strange behavior and teh fish catching started before the blood worm feeding.

Lupin 01-08-2009 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SinCrisis (Post 161791)
well this actually happened before i started feeding bloodworms. Also, my snail has been behaving strangely lately. Normally its very lazy. But after that hatchet fish incident, the snail has been moving nonstop. the strange behavior and teh fish catching started before the blood worm feeding.

Is it possible the store where you bought that snail starve it halfway to death?:? This is very interesting. What else do you have in your tank? Perhaps, you should isolate the snail and test some pond snails or ramshorns. See how long they last. What other foods does this snail eat?

SinCrisis 01-08-2009 05:48 PM

nah the snails over a year old before this behavior started. However, this is a new tank and the snail was the first one in it. Its also growing a different hell than it was before in the old tank. In fact the new shell has been growing so fast, over an inch in a week. One thing to note is that this tank is warmer than the old tank, its kept 76. The old tank often dropped to under 70 due to negligence by my parents, water would drop under heater function level and the heater would just shut off. The snail normally only gets leftovers from my fish and leftover shrimp pellets, algae wafers, etc. I tried to feed it spinach on once but he/she only nibbled on it a little. I'm sure i have least 1 trumpet somewhere under my gravel. The fish in the tank include 5 danios, 2 giant and 3 long finned, 7 pygmy corys, 3 hatchets, 3 black skirt tetras, 2 red eye tetras, 4 otos, 1 SAE and 1 peppered cory. The snail, at first in thsi tank didnt move and was normal for about a week, then i went on vacation and when i got back he was very very active. 4 days later the hatchet fish incident happened. then the day after i started feeding bloodoworms. Could he/she be reaching maturity and is looking for a mate? It's roughly an inch in size, smaller than a golf ball but is getting there.

Edit: i also have no idea how old the snail was when i bought it from petco. The store owner said they had gotten them in on that day. That was roughly a year, give or take a week ago.

Lupin 01-08-2009 08:05 PM

Snails are sexually matured when they reach an inch size. No, predation doesn't mean he is looking for a mate to copulate around. This is a very unusual behavior if it ate your hatchet. As for growth size, well, that is expected. They grow quickly as the temperature rises due to increased metabolism. This also makes them more active. This could possibly explain why it ate your hatchet. Insufficient food sources can trigger this unusual behavior but again, this is not typical for mystery snails. If I were you, keep the temperature at 74 degrees Fahrenheit only. The higher the temperature, the shorter their lifespan becomes and mysteries don't last for over 2 years.

SinCrisis 01-08-2009 08:50 PM

well i would but all my fish are tropical and there's a betta in a refugium so i wanna keep the temp at 76. Im just really surprised about the hatchet since all my other hatchets float in an area thats not close to any of the walls. Even while resting i dont see the hatchets sink very low. The whole food thing, however might be a factor. whenever i drop sinking wafers, most of my fish go and swarm the spot where the wafers are. Therefore nothing gets left. I'm hestitant to drop more food than they can eat cuz then ill be really overfeeding my.


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